I doubt the daughter of Jackie Chan went to public school. And even if she did, how does that discount what I just said? A spoiled, entitled child is those things because of poor parenting.Hwen Hoshino wrote:We are gonna forget how the government shaped education and licencing and how that added multiple other factors?BjornP wrote:If she isn't ready at 18, to take that kind of sole responsibility for herself, the people who were responsible for getting her ready to take that level of responsibility, failed as parents.
The Hollywood mom is washing her hands of her own incompetence.
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Jackie Chan is a social conservative.BjornP wrote:I doubt the daughter of Jackie Chan went to public school. And even if she did, how does that discount what I just said? A spoiled, entitled child is those things because of poor parenting.Hwen Hoshino wrote:We are gonna forget how the government shaped education and licencing and how that added multiple other factors?BjornP wrote:If she isn't ready at 18, to take that kind of sole responsibility for herself, the people who were responsible for getting her ready to take that level of responsibility, failed as parents.
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Jackie Chan also has a job, he isn’t blaming the world for not being his care taker, and he’s not panhandling on the Internet with a sob story.Hwen Hoshino wrote: Jackie Chan is a social conservative.
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So?Hwen Hoshino wrote:Jackie Chan is a social conservative.BjornP wrote:I doubt the daughter of Jackie Chan went to public school. And even if she did, how does that discount what I just said? A spoiled, entitled child is those things because of poor parenting.Hwen Hoshino wrote: We are gonna forget how the government shaped education and licencing and how that added multiple other factors?
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So his daughter is clearly not, and Hwen is simply reminding us which side of the aisle is an absolute burden on humanity, I’m sure.
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Maybe he is. Though I don't know what's particularly "socially conservative" about raising a child age 0 - 17, who turns out like that girl at age 18.DBTrek wrote:So his daughter is clearly not, and Hwen is simply reminding us which side of the aisle is an absolute burden on humanity, I’m sure.
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I don’t think he raised that one. I think he just made that one.
... which I guess makes him socially liberal.
... which I guess makes him socially liberal.
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An eighteen year old is not an adult, in my opinion, anyway. You can see in that video that they are just kids.
21 was the age we all collectively decided was adulthood for most of our history. Personally, I'd put it more like 24 now that it takes longer to grow up in a high technological society.
Or if you don't want to admit they are kids, at least recognize that there exists a phase between childhood and adulthood that we have no word for other than "young adult", which is a misnomer since these are not adults.
21 was the age we all collectively decided was adulthood for most of our history. Personally, I'd put it more like 24 now that it takes longer to grow up in a high technological society.
Or if you don't want to admit they are kids, at least recognize that there exists a phase between childhood and adulthood that we have no word for other than "young adult", which is a misnomer since these are not adults.
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DBTrek wrote:I don’t think he raised that one. I think he just made that one.
... which I guess makes him socially liberal.
Anyway. Time for some fun contextual data (just to determine if my expectations of what American kids should be able to do at 18, and what they've usually done/do, adds up or not):
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2016/05/ ... year-olds/
Googling around, I can find lots of data about that "young" demographic of 18 to 34 year olds (seriously, that range not a bit...broad?), but none of just how common it is for American 18 year olds alone to move out of their parents house?
Or wait... on the bottom of this Census Bureau page, under "Households", table H2 (Excell file):
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2017 ... -2017.html
If I'm reading it right, that's a total of 813 registrered households where the "householder" (guessing that means the person registrered as owner or tenant?) is below the age of 20. This girl can feel (even more) special now, I guess.
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+1Speaker to Animals wrote:An eighteen year old is not an adult, in my opinion, anyway. You can see in that video that they are just kids.
21 was the age we all collectively decided was adulthood for most of our history. Personally, I'd put it more like 24 now that it takes longer to grow up in a high technological society.
Or if you don't want to admit they are kids, at least recognize that there exists a phase between childhood and adulthood that we have no word for other than "young adult", which is a misnomer since these are not adults.
Very different now than back in the day.