USDA America’s Harvest Box - Blue Apron for the Poor

[clubgop]

Here's the USDA paper on it.
https://www.agri-pulse.com/ext/resource ... st-Box.pdf

BroGrump, can't be that much worse than what's in our grocery stores.......... you know that. Plus it would reduce fraud and purchase of little to no nutritional value.

I'm interested, need to learn more.

It could play out ok for a while, but cutting the benefit in half? Government negotiating for food? Plus the graft on top?

Could end up with some very hungry kids out there. I don't like it, tbh.

I doubt it. We already have WIC. And abuse of SNAP is widespread and blatant. Not far from where I work there is a crab place. You can buy them by the pound still in the shell and get them steamed right there. First weekend of the month the place is packed, now prepared food is not supposed to be eligible for food stamps, but the place just sells the crab at market price then steams it as a courtesy. In one day hundreds if not thousands of people are spending half or more of thier monthly allowance on crab. How many kids you know like crab? The feds want to give shelf stable food staples but because its Trump proposing it you have a problem with it.

[clubgop]

I know of some golf course owners that would be jizzing their pants to get Keloed by the federal government right about now. Tough business nowadays.

Tax dollars at work.

:goteam: :drunk:

But that's the point. Most golf courses are going under. The one down the street from me is not even used anymore. There would be a large upfront cost to buy all these places, but after that, I think it would pay off by building stronger communities and helping people to feed themselves instead of relying on subsidies.


You could set a farm up as some kind of trust, no? How hard would this be, really?

Who are you seeing as the purchaser? Or the trustee? I may be missing your take here.

My in-laws. They have a nice large house only problem, a large portion of the backyard is a golf course. I can't tell you how much siding and windows they replaced. Community farming would be great for well off suburbanites whites, but as a replacement for SNAP in the hood? Talk about starving kids.

[K@th]

We have a community farm in our community. Keep the feds away from it! Fuck them. You guys want even more government? What happened to small government?

FFS - don't allow the crab place to accept SNAP. WTF, anyway?

[C-Mag]

Here's the USDA paper on it.
https://www.agri-pulse.com/ext/resource ... st-Box.pdf

BroGrump, can't be that much worse than what's in our grocery stores.......... you know that. Plus it would reduce fraud and purchase of little to no nutritional value.

I'm interested, need to learn more.

It could play out ok for a while, but cutting the benefit in half? Government negotiating for food? Plus the graft on top?

Could end up with some very hungry kids out there. I don't like it, tbh.

I doubt it. We already have WIC. And abuse of SNAP is widespread and blatant. Not far from where I work there is a crab place. You can buy them by the pound still in the shell and get them steamed right there. First weekend of the month the place is packed, now prepared food is not supposed to be eligible for food stamps, but the place just sells the crab at market price then steams it as a courtesy. In one day hundreds if not thousands of people are spending half or more of thier monthly allowance on crab. How many kids you know like crab? The feds want to give shelf stable food staples but because its Trump proposing it you have a problem with it.

+1

The vast majority of these people aren't stupid. They just see it as the easiest way to live, they'er due it and they'll find the wholes in the system and exploit it. Giving out food itself will have its own problems, but it will reduce fraud a lot. You might be able to trade a sack of rice at the Crab Shack once, but you won't have hundreds of people accepting rice for steamed crabs, whores and heroine.

[DBTrek]

Bloomberg - In what would be one of the biggest shakeups of the U.S. food-stamp program in its five-decade history, President Donald Trump is proposing to slash cash payments and substitute them with "100 percent American grown food" given to recipients.

The changes, outlined Monday in Trump’s budget proposal, would reshape the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, which supports roughly one in eight Americans, by reducing cash spending by about one-third from current levels.

I kind of love this plan. What's the down side ?

Same downside we always see when central planners “predict” what people will need in any given year - shortages of needed items, surplus of unneeded. More Inefficiency introduced to an already inefficient system.

[K@th]

Same downside we always see when central planners “predict” what people will need in any given year - shortages of needed items, surplus of unneeded.

Government employees in charge of packing and distributing food start doing their weekly "shopping" at work.....

Nobody wants big government because the feds find a way to fuck up a tic-tac-toe game, but then, something comes along to tickle their ear and they go, "HEY! You know what could work? BIG GOVERNMENT! Totally perfect and efficient....."

SMH

[SuburbanFarmer]

The feds want to give shelf stable food staples but because its Trump proposing it you have a problem with it.

O, ya know, the reasons I stated...

[C-Mag]

Bloomberg - In what would be one of the biggest shakeups of the U.S. food-stamp program in its five-decade history, President Donald Trump is proposing to slash cash payments and substitute them with "100 percent American grown food" given to recipients.

The changes, outlined Monday in Trump’s budget proposal, would reshape the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, which supports roughly one in eight Americans, by reducing cash spending by about one-third from current levels.

I kind of love this plan. What's the down side ?

Same downside we always see when central planners “predict” what people will need in any given year - shortages of needed items, surplus of unneeded. More Inefficiency introduced to an already inefficient system.

Right, it's not likely we are going to stop giving away resources to feed people. Question is should all the resources be in highly street tradeable EBT cards or physical goods with the needed nutritional value and less street value.

[K@th]

Right, it's not likely we are going to stop giving away resources to feed people. Question is should all the resources be in highly street tradeable EBT cards or physical goods with the needed nutritional value and less street value.

So now the government will have to set up a database with every food they are going to have, and note any allergies in the household. Then someone needs to sort through that data to figure out which households can't get peanut butter, which can't get any gluten... and several other allergies.

Now mom with gluten allergy and kid with peanut allergy get a box with the wrong stuff. Now they have to go to their local government food distribution center with the unusable food in hopes to exchange it for food they can eat.

What a nightmare. But, the feds will be running it so all will go well.

[DBTrek]

If you want maximum efficiency from your tax dollar, then you want the consumer making the purchasing choices. They, like regular consumers, will “vote with (our) dollars” on how resources should be best divided in our economy (aka milk, butter, or ice cream? Which does the economy demand more? Vote with cash).

If you don’t care about efficiency, do what you want. Just do so with the knowledge that human planners aren’t going to correctly predict the supply/demand curve of food rations and every time they predict wrong it’s going to cost more money.

/shrug