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[StCapps]

Even as political theater, it's crap.

It's actually very effective political theater, it tricked Republicans into thinking Trump was more hardcore on immigration than any other Republicans, even though his position on immigration isn't radical at all. All he needed was a catch phrase that evoked a visual image that stuck in people's minds, that is excellent political theater.

It is a good meme, I'll grant that.

But it comes with an expiration date.

Yeah, after he's been elected. Then all he needs to do is do more about the border security during his term than Americans perceive the Democrats would have done, and it won't matter how much of the border is secured via wall, or other methods. If more effective border security is the goal, the wall meme is the best way to convince people that you are the guy to get it done, the details of achieving more effective border security can come after you are in a position to lead and you're supporters will follow because they trust you.

[BjornP]

So this voluntary UN pact as they call it in the article, means that signatories let the UN decide on how many refugees each country gets, and from where? That about right?

Don’t know, don’t care, doesn’t matter.

We’ll handle our immigration, thanks.
You guys can go back to your mutual handjob club and jack each other off over who gets how many immigrants from where (thus determining Who gets prime peacock standing in the game of self annihilation). You all have such an outstanding record, after all.

K. You keep saying you handle your own immigration. One might then get the impression you believe this pact prevents you from that. Like anybody in the UN has actually, in this dimension, crafted this pact to keep you from doing that. If that's a fact, show the fact.

[DBTrek]

The very idea that the UN has some collaborative advice for us on immigration should've earned them a public kick in the ass. Don't even talk to us about immigration. Inviting us to a discussion is an incredibly pretentious move as it falsely assumes you are peers on this matter.
You're not.
Be quiet.
Don't make us send you to the corner again.

. . . oh, and special Kudos to you, U.K.
You've actually managed to hit the top 10 nations which people are fleeing like raft-riding third-worlders.
Big accomplishment.
So sorry you won't be inviting our president to your collapsing state.

[K@th]

]"The Wall" sells the smarter, less expensive, more effective options better than they could have if they just pitched them on their own, or if all the options had received equal focus with "The Wall". Which is why Trump focused on it and made little mention of finer policy details. Trump ignored the facts that didn't help him, to focus on the feelz that did, that's just good politics.

Smarter would be making hiring illegals more trouble then it's worth. Freeze them out of the labor pool and they go home. No services, no driver's licenses, no school for the kids.

[StCapps]

]"The Wall" sells the smarter, less expensive, more effective options better than they could have if they just pitched them on their own, or if all the options had received equal focus with "The Wall". Which is why Trump focused on it and made little mention of finer policy details. Trump ignored the facts that didn't help him, to focus on the feelz that did, that's just good politics.

Smarter would be making hiring illegals more trouble then it's worth. Freeze them out of the labor pool and they go home. No services, no driver's licenses, no school for the kids.

Self Deportation doesn't sell as well as Build That Wall, ask Mitt Romney, if you don't believe me.

[ssu]

A good move from the Trump administration.

Although immigration levels have fallen, in the US they are still higher than in the 50's and 60's.

Interesting graph on US immigration By country:



When you look at the immigration waves compared to the population, you can see just how huge it was in the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th Century. Still, the spike in 1990 of 1% growth is huge. But nothing like having immigration of over 4% of the population.

[StCapps]

Self Deportation doesn't have a poweful visual anchor like The Wall does. You can picture a wall in your mind, illegals choosing to go back home because the incentives dry up, not so much.

[Fife]

No services, no driver's licenses, no school for the kids.

[Speaker to Animals]

I'd settle for a mile-wide minefield stretching across the entire border.

Not as powerful a visual for the rubes as a wall.

Which immigration policy sells better among the electorate? Hence why Trump went with "wall" over "minefield". The visual of a big beautiful border wall trumps the visual induced by a border plan with a ton of nuance, hence why he was light on the details, and focused on a visual image that would stick in people's minds and enforce his brand as tough on immigration. Policy wonkery doesn't sell, visual anchors do.

I think you are wrong about this. If you think the Kaths of America are losing their shit over a wall, a literal minefield would drive them literally insane. The minefield represents lethal commitment to keeping these people the fuck out of our country. They would accuse us of wanting to see babies blown up in the desert. They absolutely would completely lose their fucking minds, literally, within seconds of Trump talking about an actual minefield deterrent.

[StCapps]

I think you are wrong about this. If you think the Kaths of America are losing their shit over a wall, a literal minefield would drive them literally insane. The minefield represents lethal commitment to keeping these people the fuck out of our country. They would accuse us of wanting to see babies blown up in the desert. They absolutely would completely lose their fucking minds, literally, within seconds of Trump talking about an actual minefield deterrent.

No you're wrong about this, it's easier to picture a wall in the average voters mind than it is to image a minefield. The wall is a far easier sell, better visual anchor.