2017 Election - What does it mean?

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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by brewster » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:03 pm

nmoore63 wrote: Midterms can tell you stuff. Off pre-midterm - a good 80% of the country didn't even know there was an election.
Actually, the VA Gov race is pretty significant, a state that was tipping has solidly tipped. Likely permanently if people don't go back to sleep, it's got the demographics behind it. The NJ race means absolutely nothing. Christie's #2 never had a chance, and NJ flip flops back and forth regularly, vainly hoping to find a Gov who isn't in the pocket of the special interests. Murphy will most likely be Corzine Redux, too beholden to the D machines to truly shake things up the way NJ needs them to be. I voted Green.
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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:12 pm

It was still a significant loss for Trump. I think Trump needs to stop supporting these cucked out republicans. These Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush types need to hit the road asap.

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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by brewster » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:42 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:It was still a significant loss for Trump. I think Trump needs to stop supporting these cucked out republicans. These Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush types need to hit the road asap.
Do you actually believe that a more radical GOP candidate would have won either state? I don't know as much about VA as NJ, but here only centrist economically and socially liberal R's get elected, that's what Christie was before he got national ambitions, as was Whitman and Kean before him. As for VA, it's likely now simply too educated, immigrant, and non-white to go for your kind of guy.
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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:46 pm

brewster wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:It was still a significant loss for Trump. I think Trump needs to stop supporting these cucked out republicans. These Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush types need to hit the road asap.
Do you actually believe that a more radical GOP candidate would have won either state?

If by "radical" you mean not yet another unlikeable Bush-style neocon, then yes.

It's the base turnout that matters and these clowns have been smothering the life out of the republican base for years now. They have to go.

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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by C-Mag » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:58 pm

The election means that WWII Generation is not done winning elections
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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by Zero » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:13 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Yeah, republicans need to abandon the guac bowl politics and the insufferable suits that advance those politics. Like yesterday.
Can you define ‘guac bowl politics’?
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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by brewster » Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:20 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
brewster wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:It was still a significant loss for Trump. I think Trump needs to stop supporting these cucked out republicans. These Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush types need to hit the road asap.
Do you actually believe that a more radical GOP candidate would have won either state?

If by "radical" you mean not yet another unlikeable Bush-style neocon, then yes.

It's the base turnout that matters and these clowns have been smothering the life out of the republican base for years now. They have to go.
Yet, what the people of New Jersey have been looking for for, for decades, is competent technocrats just like what those candidates claim to be. Administrations of both parties have completely fucked the finances of this state. They would never vote for a "blow it up" candidate. Trump's base simply doesn't exist in large numbers in New Jersey, although loyal party members of course still voted for him. He didn't win New Jersey, why would a mini-me?
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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by The Conservative » Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:15 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:It was still a significant loss for Trump. I think Trump needs to stop supporting these cucked out republicans. These Paul Ryan and Jeb Bush types need to hit the road asap.
It was a loss as much as a teenager popping a zit. There are more to be ready for in the future.
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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by Alexander PhiAlipson » Thu Nov 09, 2017 7:21 am

Gillespie was a never-Trumper. I use was because it seems doubtful to me that we'll ever hear much from him again. VA has been going Blue for quite some time now, and once again, if you check the electoral map, you'll find the Red counties far from the coastal population centers.

Some formerly funny guy made some sort of observation about Trump's losing money in the casino business--as if it were free money, and yet, New Jersey The Garden State still heads towards insolvency--ever get a whiff of a garden like that? :puke-front:

Fewer than one quarter of registered voters turned out and elected DeBlasio for a second term in NYC.

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Re: 2017 Election - What does it mean?

Post by nmoore63 » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:29 am

brewster wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: Midterms can tell you stuff. Off pre-midterm - a good 80% of the country didn't even know there was an election.
Actually, the VA Gov race is pretty significant, a state that was tipping has solidly tipped. Likely permanently if people don't go back to sleep, it's got the demographics behind it. The NJ race means absolutely nothing. Christie's #2 never had a chance, and NJ flip flops back and forth regularly, vainly hoping to find a Gov who isn't in the pocket of the special interests. Murphy will most likely be Corzine Redux, too beholden to the D machines to truly shake things up the way NJ needs them to be. I voted Green.
Virginia is a suburb of DC.