Tax Plan For Aristocracy

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Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Nov 02, 2017 9:50 pm

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Martin Hash wrote:A lot of people on this forum are pro-aristocrat. Since I’m the only aristocrat here, bow to me.
As you wish my liege Image

I see no reason for the government to get a cut of inheritance.
You know how he tries to frame this as people hoping to be rich trying to protect their future wealth?

Doesn't make a whole lot of sense when you put that up beside his argument that it won't matter to you because you'll be dead.

Makes a lot more sense when you remember that he wants to be the one in power, buying votes by promising to give the stolen wealth to his prospective constituents.

Populists gonna populist.

Oh, but the aristocracy!

That thing that doesn't exist. We better tax the people, who already pay more than half of the taxes, on the money we've already taxed. That way we can all be equal, like the happy people in Venezuela. If only we could follow their model. We'd all be so happy. Vote for me.

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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Zlaxer » Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:11 am

Hash is right imho - I don't like the inheritance tax, but....you either break up family aristocracies/monopolies, or you dont....birth rate of developed world is about 2.5...family wealth doesn't get split up the way it used to.....

Class divide is making us third world.....been to a ghetto recently? I see no difference between us ghettos and third world shot holes....wait, actually, I think Id take the third world, less chance of being shot.....


But perhaps prince William has figured it out (or more likey thinks the elites are ready to commit) - if proles are a problem, reduce the number of proles......pretty simple....

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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by K@th » Fri Nov 03, 2017 6:42 am

This really is a no brainer to me.

The top 20% has 85% of the country's wealth. It's not hard to understand why they pay the most in taxes.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:08 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
Martin Hash wrote:You’re either an aristocracy or you do something to prevent an aristocracy from forming.
Horseshit.

ar·is·toc·ra·cy
ˌerəˈstäkrəsē/Submit
noun
the highest class in certain societies, especially those holding hereditary titles or offices.

Does not exist in the US. Poor become rich. Rich become poor. Every damn day.
Only Inheritance taxes or revolution will do that.
More horseshit.

The only way to prevent something that never existed in America is to tax even more, or you're all gonna die.
You're the one spouting horseshit, an aristocracy doesn't exist in the US, that's some funny shit. There is no country on earth in which an aristocracy does not exist, America did not avoid aristocracy, that's a myth you like to tell yourselves, it has no basis in reality. An inheritance tax won't prevent an aristocracy from forming, they'll just find another tax loophole with their lawyers. Progressive taxation is fine, inheritance taxes are dumb, they will not prevent a revolution, nor will they prevent the formation of an aristocracy, nor will they eliminate the aristocracy. Hash just refuses to listen to reason on them, he thinks he can engineer society to have no aristocracy, all he needs is to tax the rich and have government spend their money, via higher inheritance taxes and viola, no more Aristocracy.

Silly Hash, naive utopian thinking, right thur. There is no tax that will end aristocracy, if that is the goal of your taxation plan, you'll fail every single time.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:11 am

Okeefenokee wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:the rich pay the lion's share of the taxes. And yet it doesn't touch their wealth in any meaningful way. The estate tax, however, did, and now it's going away.
There it is. Has nothing to do with paying your fair share. Fucking bucket of crabs, the lot of you.

All you care about is dragging down anyone who climbs higher than you.


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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:21 am

Most of the loudest people on this forum have no problem with an aristocracy. Interestingly, they’re the same ones that admire money over accomplishment. You are as guilty of tearing America apart as the collectivists.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:21 am

You can't do away with the oligarchy or the aristocracy, via taxation, only a tax and spend liberal would think otherwise. Noblesse Oblige, pretending as if you can rig the system so there is no upper class, fucking laughable.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:23 am

And I’m a Spend-n-Tax Liberal who will never be elected to anything.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by StCapps » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:24 am

Martin Hash wrote:And I’m a Spend-n-Tax Liberal who will never be elected to anything.
Another tax is not the solution to the problem you want to solve, so quit fronting like it will. Fucking tax and spend liberals, another tax isn't going to fix shit, but it's you knee jerk reaction to solve any problem. You like to use the hammer, but not every problem is a nail, and neither is the aristocracy.
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Re: Tax Plan For Aristocracy

Post by Martin Hash » Fri Nov 03, 2017 7:26 am

???

I can only offer solutions, I can’t force anyone to implement them. Everybody always thinks they know better than me. Always have. Human nature.
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