10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by BjornP » Sat Sep 23, 2017 1:52 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
BjornP wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
You don't mess with the food supply without serious advance planning and supervision. Reference The Great Leap Forward.
Arresting illegal alien farm workers, and hopefully their employers, isn't excatly comparable to a Maoist plan of turning your country from an agricultural into an industrial society. You're sort of already there...

I'm just going to go out on a limb and assume that not every farmer and their employees are illegals smuggled into the US.
I did a quick lookup - about 75% of farm workers. Farmers and migrant labor
are not the same thing. Migrant laborers are farmhands - they work for the farmer.
No, looks like 53%, not 75%. That's still ridiculously high, of course.
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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by MilSpecs » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:09 pm

BjornP wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:
BjornP wrote:
Arresting illegal alien farm workers, and hopefully their employers, isn't excatly comparable to a Maoist plan of turning your country from an agricultural into an industrial society. You're sort of already there...

I'm just going to go out on a limb and assume that not every farmer and their employees are illegals smuggled into the US.
I did a quick lookup - about 75% of farm workers. Farmers and migrant labor
are not the same thing. Migrant laborers are farmhands - they work for the farmer.
No, looks like 53%, not 75%. That's still ridiculously high, of course.
It ranged. I picked a number that was cited by multiple .gov sites, all somewhere in the low to mid 70s. Either way very high. There's no doubt that the sudden deportation of farmworkers could cause a serious food crisis, especially in the middle of harvest. We need to fix the illegal immigration problem but that is a Very Bad Idea. I stand by my belief that you don't mess with the food or water supply without strong advance planning and monitoring.
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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by TheReal_ND » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:49 pm

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Speaker to Animals wrote:

Well, whatever you want to call it and leaving Trump out of it for now, I take it you agree that we have the right to enforce our immigration laws and remove these people?
Keep people from illegally immigrating in and remove the more recent arrivals, yes. Those who were allowed to come here with a wink and a nod from the overlords, they're a different story. We let them in and did nothing about it for so many years (nod to Fife about the business-government collusion) that it would be immoral to remove the ones who've been here so long that they're de facto americans.
It's immoral to shaft over the American workers twice with the same illegal. Once by letting them in and once more by legalizing them.

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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by MilSpecs » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:01 pm

Nukedog wrote: It's immoral to shaft over the American workers twice with the same illegal. Once by letting them in and once more by legalizing them.
There is no perfect solution. We can't go back in time and change things, and we shouldn't destroy peoples' lives when we basically invited them to stay here. Those who have been allowed to remain here for years - long enough to establish American families - should have a path to citizenship, and those who have been here illegally for a relatively short period should be repatriated to their home countries.
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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by Fife » Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:17 pm

*repatriated*

Don't repatriate me, bro!

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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:20 pm

Montegriffo wrote:
MilSpecs wrote:What sense it makes to remove farm workers in the middle of the harvest. Combine it with the flooding and we can have famine with a side of pestilence if they play their cards right.
It's ok, millions of legal US citizens are just waiting for a chance to get their farm labourer jobs back.
Monty finally says something true. Too bad he's too disconnected from real life to know it.

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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:23 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Well, whatever you want to call it and leaving Trump out of it for now, I take it you agree that we have the right to enforce our immigration laws and remove these people?
Keep people from illegally immigrating in and remove the more recent arrivals, yes. Those who were allowed to come here with a wink and a nod from the overlords, they're a different story. We let them in and did nothing about it for so many years (nod to Fife about the business-government collusion) that it would be immoral to remove the ones who've been here so long that they're de facto americans.
Not we. You.
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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by Okeefenokee » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:24 pm

MilSpecs wrote:
Nukedog wrote: It's immoral to shaft over the American workers twice with the same illegal. Once by letting them in and once more by legalizing them.
There is no perfect solution. We can't go back in time and change things, and we shouldn't destroy peoples' lives when we basically invited them to stay here. Those who have been allowed to remain here for years - long enough to establish American families - should have a path to citizenship, and those who have been here illegally for a relatively short period should be repatriated to their home countries.
Not we. You.
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.

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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by MilSpecs » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:40 am

Yeah, I'm the secret overlord making decisions on who gets into the country. :lol:

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Re: 10 illegal alien farm workers arrested in MI

Post by Martin Hash » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:56 am

MilSpecs wrote:We are all accountable for the actions of our government.
Whoa, Nellie. You first.
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