America vs the rest of the world. What would happen?

[Smitty-48]

If we go down Toronto will be the first city that we ICBM. Its not personal, you guys just know too much.

Knock yourself out, I'm well outside the effects radius where I'm at, I don't have any kin in Toronto anymore, and I'm west of the prevailing winds, the fallout would be coming down on the American northeast, but not me actually.

It's not even the Toronto I grew up in anymore, I'm not that attached to it at this point.

[Speaker to Animals]

Yeah, again, you'd just be doing decent people a favor by nuking Canadian cities. How many times does this have to be explained?

Urban liberals have far more to lose from all this war-mongering against Russia than the fly-over folks. In a way, we are trying to save the liberals from themselves, and I am sitting here wondering if we just let them go ahead and do it so we burn this cancerous tumor out of existence, cauterize the wound, and start over.

For instance, the Russian government is constantly speaking to rural America through their propaganda outlets. It's only a matter of time before Putin himself starts addressing us and furthering this divide.

Think about it. Look at election maps of both the US and Canada. Russia doesn't technically have any enemies out here in the styx. Their enemies are in small, confined urban areas, and there are only about a dozen of those areas. And it's people in those small confined areas who keep beating war drums over Russia. Not too bright..

[Smitty-48]

If you hit Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and Vancouver, you'd basically just be liberating us from our communist opressors.

All I would ask is that you wait until the Leafs are on a road trip, to spare Auston Matthews, so we could have the franchise to rebuild around in the wake of independence day.

[Speaker to Animals]

If you hit Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa, and Vancouver, you'd basically just be liberating us from our communist opressors.

All I would ask is that you wait until the Leafs are on a road trip, to spare Auston Matthews, so we could have the franchise to rebuild around in the wake of independence day.

It's hilarious to me that they don't understand this.

[Okeefenokee]

We wouldn't be able to mass produce much of what we use now. Do you know how long it takes to make our aircraft?

Depending on what weaponry is available EMP bursts could fuck us pretty hard as well.

Against our technological equals (or at least kind of close to us) we would have a very hard time.

And that doesn't take into account that the war goes nuclear the minute one side starts losing.

We don't have technological equals. None of our technological rivals produce their own tech any more than we do. Nuking China would destroy the factories that produce their tech too.

[Montegriffo]

Yeah, again, you'd just be doing decent people a favor by nuking Canadian cities. How many times does this have to be explained?

Urban liberals have far more to lose from all this war-mongering against Russia than the fly-over folks. In a way, we are trying to save the liberals from themselves, and I am sitting here wondering if we just let them go ahead and do it so we burn this cancerous tumor out of existence, cauterize the wound, and start over.

Here speaks the voice of a true patriot, willing to sacrifice millions of his own people for the sake of God and country. Must make you all so proud....

[Speaker to Animals]

Yeah, again, you'd just be doing decent people a favor by nuking Canadian cities. How many times does this have to be explained?

Urban liberals have far more to lose from all this war-mongering against Russia than the fly-over folks. In a way, we are trying to save the liberals from themselves, and I am sitting here wondering if we just let them go ahead and do it so we burn this cancerous tumor out of existence, cauterize the wound, and start over.

Here speaks the voice of a true patriot, willing to see the death of millions of his own people for the sake of God and country. Must make you all so proud....

I have been trying to keep it from happening, genius. Explaining to liberals -- carefully and deliberately as one would to children -- what their behavior could lead to and why it's the liberals who are the ones who will most suffer is not "willing to see the death of millions of his own people for the sake of God and country".

Some of these children really know how to throw a tantrum when confronted with the truth..

[Montegriffo]

Ah, so that's why Krusty is trying to start WWIII, he's too much of a Liberal? There was me foolishly believing he was nuclear Hitler when he's really Atomic Ghandi.

[Speaker to Animals]

What do you think Hillary was doing throughout the entire campaign, and what do you think the democrats are doing right now with this "we're at war" bullshit they are spouting off about Russia??

[BjornP]

The US' greatest defense is the Atlantic and Pacific Ocean. It would be impossible to launch any sort of conventional invasion by sea in force. Even if the navies of the world combined beat your navy, you have a couple thousand nukes to spare for tactical strikes. I assume those can be used on naval targets as well as ground targets, after all. So, no one would be able to invade you.

But you'd lose in the end, of course. Can't make war without money, and without trade, your coffers run dry. Your populations are also unwilling to fight wars. The US wouldn't be able or willing to lose the number of soldiers Russian or Chinese governments would be able to sacrifice, so your own invasion attempts would be thwarted, too.

And unlike Europe, or Asia, or Africa, you'd not be able to recover socially or economically from such a war. Especially with American GenX'ers and Millenials being indoctrinated into believing that the collapse of government means the US turns into the Fallout universe. Americans just aren't built for cooperation anymore and don't posses enough of a cohesive society to rebuild. The rest of the world will easily influence you into a civil war state, leading to seccesionism, wide-scale civil unrest and radicalism. And every time an American tries to tell you that you're being manipulated by foreign propaganda from...say, China, everyone else will simply dismiss it as "China! China! China!" alarmist nonsense.

And then Canada annexes you without a single shot fired.