Democrats have a Pedophile problem

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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:57 am

The Conservative wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
Don't play silly with me, make a direct point. I made clear points and backed it up with references. You've suggested I am wrong with vague claims.
You're not wrong about the 'facts' listed, even though not all of them are proven. Your conclusion is wrong. You're inferring a critical flaw with the DNC, because the only items listed are related to that party. You're also assuming that this doesn't happen just as much, or even more, in the RNC.

If you somehow got a full readout of your neighbor's crimes, would you assume that the rest of the neighborhood never committed them?
For a start:

Anthony Weiner: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/te ... er-n801251
Jacob Schwartz: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... pornograp/
Sen. Robert Menendez : https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... f08b6ba443

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/20 ... ion-claims

And I'd be curious about how many knew about it and were OK with it happening. This doesn't happen in a bubble.
Why presume that they're being covered by DNC officials? It's probably endemic in Congress. Hell, given the history of Catholic priests, maybe it's ANY group of old men in power...
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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by pineapplemike » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:01 am

this thread is dumb, even if democrats for some reason have a small propensity for being creepy pedophiles, is that really something to be scoring points off of? haha your team has x amount more pedophiles than mine? sad!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ha ... ney_scheme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_%2 ... esignation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauman#Scandal

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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by C-Mag » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:08 am

pineapplemike wrote:this thread is dumb, even if democrats for some reason have a small propensity for being creepy pedophiles, is that really something to be scoring points off of? haha your team has x amount more pedophiles than mine? sad!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ha ... ney_scheme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_%2 ... esignation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauman#Scandal

Disagree. It reveals the nature of people. If you can't openly denounce Pedophilia, anyone involved in it and Leadership that fails to rebuke Pedophiles................. you have a problem.

It's the same thing with pAntiFa violence. You'll never hear Lefties denounce pAntiFa for violence, they attack you instead, reason why it's OK.

It all goes to having standards for Society, what is OK and what is not, where do we draw the line. The GOP sucks, but if there are known Pedophiles in the party a large, loud group of party members will speak out to toss that person........ not true with the Democrats.
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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:14 am

C-Mag wrote: if there are known Pedophiles in the party a large, loud group of party members will speak out to toss that person........ not true with the Democrats.
...or the Catholic Church, or Mormons, or Scientologists, or probably any powerful group.
SJWs are a natural consequence of corporatism.

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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by pineapplemike » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:21 am

a lefty denouncing pantifa wrote:“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts,” Nancy Pelosi said in a statement. “The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.”
I suppose your point is that democrats today aren't denouncing Menendez? Isn't he just starting a trial and still currently innocent? Honestly man I don't know I'm not looking to throw down over this, I purposefully zone out anytime pedophilia or child anything is mentioned, I don't touch any of that shit. If it turns out he's guilty and has been boinking kids or whatever he's accused of then I'm sure democrats will begin to craft statements denouncing his criminal acts while praising his dedication and service blah blah blah, they're politicians afterall, they have to craft their statements carefully, even denouncing "many sides" doesn't show enough finesse and will get you into trouble.

As long as we're trashing democrats I will say that republicans don't appear to have anything on par with pizzagate, assuming any of that turns out to be true.

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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by C-Mag » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:27 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote: if there are known Pedophiles in the party a large, loud group of party members will speak out to toss that person........ not true with the Democrats.
...or the Catholic Church, or Mormons, or Scientologists, or probably any powerful group.
See ^^^ classic example, can't say it's wrong, just gotta equivocate it. Won't set a standard for right and wrong behavior.


Here's the difference. Catholics protested the church, and left the church.
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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:31 am

C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote: if there are known Pedophiles in the party a large, loud group of party members will speak out to toss that person........ not true with the Democrats.
...or the Catholic Church, or Mormons, or Scientologists, or probably any powerful group.
See ^^^ classic example, can't say it's wrong, just gotta equivocate it. Won't set a standard for right and wrong behavior.


Here's the difference. Catholics protested the church, and left the church.
I protested all religion, and left it behind. I was never a member of the DNC. You want me to say something to condemn pedophilia? Fine, burn them at the stake. Rip their eyes out. Whatever allows this discussion to move forward.

The point is that this is happening everywhere. It's possible that it's happening in EVERY powerful group of men. The fact that you have a list of possible perpetrators in the DNC does not mean that the other side is clean. If anything, it makes it more likely that they're not.
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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by Speaker to Animals » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:48 am

GrumpyCatFace wrote:The fact that you have a list of possible perpetrators in the DNC does not mean that the other side is clean. If anything, it makes it more likely that they're not.

That's not a logical proposition at all.

I agree this story is bullshit. To begin with, there's Dennis Hastert and the baseless allegations against Biden disgust me. But you cannot argue that because you have far more evidence of criminality in group A, that group B must therefore have the same level of criminality unless you try to argue that what caused the higher level of criminality in group A also exists in group B. Yet the common denominator here is homosexuality, and the rates simply are not shared by both sides. There certainly are some gay men in the GOP, I suspect, but not that many.

Then, your launching into the same fallacious argument that C-Mag used against you, but directed against Catholics, completely destroyed your case. I mean.. you totally just sunk your own battleship with that one.

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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by clubgop » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:54 am

C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote: if there are known Pedophiles in the party a large, loud group of party members will speak out to toss that person........ not true with the Democrats.
...or the Catholic Church, or Mormons, or Scientologists, or probably any powerful group.
See ^^^ classic example, can't say it's wrong, just gotta equivocate it. Won't set a standard for right and wrong behavior.


Here's the difference. Catholics protested the church, and left the church.
Right on. The crazies are leading the left and people like GCF are just whistling past the graveyard.

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Re: Democrats have a Pedophile problem

Post by The Conservative » Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:05 am

pineapplemike wrote:this thread is dumb, even if democrats for some reason have a small propensity for being creepy pedophiles, is that really something to be scoring points off of? haha your team has x amount more pedophiles than mine? sad!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Foley_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ha ... ney_scheme
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_%2 ... esignation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Bauman#Scandal
Seriously? Were you even alive when these happened? If this is all you can find for "Republicans" then you are seriously looking too hard. 1980s? 30+ years ago?

The same time drugs, alcohol, and nearly free sex was a thing... where cocaine was making it's way up here... etc...

Gerry Studds, Representative (D-MA), was censured July 20, 1983, in the Congressional Page sex scandal for having sex with a young congressional staffer. (1983)

Gary Hart, Senator (D-CO): while seeking the Democratic nomination for president, Hart was photographed with model Donna Rice on a boat named 'Monkey Business' during a trip to the Bahamas. His popularity plummeted and he soon dropped out. (1987)

Jim Bates, Representative (D-CA), made sexual advances toward female staffers.(1988)

Edward Kennedy, Senator (D-MA), was often portrayed scandalously in gossip columns and tabloids, owing to numerous and barely concealed extramarital affairs plus notorious public incidents, including public sex in 1985 and 1987 at La Brasserie restaurant in Washington D.C. (1980s)

Barney Frank, Representative (D-MA), was reprimanded by the House for fixing 33 parking tickets for Steve Gobie, a male escort who lived with Frank and claimed to have conducted an escort service from Frank's apartment without his knowledge. (1989)

Gus Savage, Representative (D-IL), was accused of trying to force himself on a female Peace Corps worker while in Zaire.[61] No action was taken by the House Ethics Committee after he apologized to her. (1989)

Oh, let's keep going back, shall we?

Wilbur Mills, Representative (D-AR), was found intoxicated with stripper Fanne Foxe. He was re-elected anyway, but resigned after giving an intoxicated press conference from Foxe's burlesque house dressing room. (1974)

Allan Howe, Representative (D-UT), was arrested for soliciting two police officers posing as prostitutes. (1976)

John Young, Representative (D-TX): A former female staffer said she received a pay raise after giving in to Young's sexual advances. (1976)

Wayne Hays, Representative (D-OH): The Elizabeth Ray sex scandal ended his career in 1976. The Washington Post reported that Ray had been on the payroll of a committee run by Hays for two years as a clerk-secretary. During that time, she admitted, her actual job duties were providing Congressman Hays sexual favors: "I can't type, I can't file, I can't even answer the phone." (1976)

Fred Richmond, Representative (D-NY): Charges that he solicited sex from a 16-year-old boy were dropped after he submitted to counseling. (1978)

Robert L. Leggett, Representative (D-CA), acknowledged that he fathered two illegitimate children by a Congressional secretary, whom he supported financially. He then had an affair with another woman, who was an aide to Speaker Carl Albert. (1976)

Joseph P. Wyatt, Jr., Representative (D-TX) was arrested on homosexual charges in 1979.

Seriously, you want to keep going I can, but the fact is that Democrats have a history of getting away with things a lot more than Republicans, proof is in the pudding.
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