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Re: TSA Fun

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:00 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Source?

I'm pretty sure that it's a "right-wing" position to oppose the TSA, if you can only think in those terms. Really, it should be a matter of common sense and citizenship, to oppose someone delaying the shit out of transportation, and x-raying your genitals for no actual benefit.
This constantly making everything about righties, and lefties, as if it is a game gets old, and it only really serves to deflect efforts to solve our problems. It really serves the wealthy, the big financial interests, and the political leadership in both parties.

If we can not agree about the TSA, nevermind the Border Patrol, DEA, and the ATF, because we are too busy making points off the other side, we're just screwed.

The answer to your problem is embedded in your post. You try to conflate legitimate concerns about the TSA with your open borders hoo hoo. No, we don't need to shut down border patrol. We need to build a wall and to ramp up spending on border patrol and ICE.

TSA and Border Patrol are not equivalent in any rational universe. Go back to burning trashcans and chanting your kindergarten slogans on the street.
Aside from the fact that the Border Patrol has had a corruption problem, which includes murder, rape, robbery, beatings, false arrests, and I believe smuggling with ICE having some of same but with the emphasis on framing, perjury, and theft, with all three being dysfunction useless waste of money, they are not equivalent at all.

:roll:

Also, as I have stated before, and state now, that as a nationalist, although I do think immigration is a good thing, the current de facto border policy is insane, so you fail, sir, in your point collecting.

Anymore bullshit you want to add?

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Re: TSA Fun

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:01 pm

Yeah, we should just not secure the border at all and let every one of the 7.1 billion human beings who want to come here just hike the fuck on in, because feelings and virtue signaling. You should give up all your shit and lose your livelihood first, though.

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Re: TSA Fun

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:03 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
They created it. Along with the NSA.
Whatever party created a particular abomination, both parties are happy to use it once they get into power. Stop being tricked. It is not about one's inclination towards conservative, or liberal, thinking. It is about the acquisition of wealth, and the power, and status, that it gives, and the use of whatever ideological BS that allows them to sleep at night.

I keep hearing how they are so different from each other. one party is like chocolate, and the other is tutti frutti, but really they're both variations of the same poison, like plain vanilla, and french vanilla. With bonus arsenic in both. Or the neoliberals, and the neoconservatives. Same evil, just slightly different flavors.
Well you're a self proclaimed socialist and I identify more with the Alt-Right than anything else. What does that tell you?
Well, we are both against the massive corruption, and neither party cares about us, or our politics, just our money, and obedience, what does that tell you?
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Re: TSA Fun

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:07 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
This constantly making everything about righties, and lefties, as if it is a game gets old, and it only really serves to deflect efforts to solve our problems. It really serves the wealthy, the big financial interests, and the political leadership in both parties.

If we can not agree about the TSA, nevermind the Border Patrol, DEA, and the ATF, because we are too busy making points off the other side, we're just screwed.

The answer to your problem is embedded in your post. You try to conflate legitimate concerns about the TSA with your open borders hoo hoo. No, we don't need to shut down border patrol. We need to build a wall and to ramp up spending on border patrol and ICE.

TSA and Border Patrol are not equivalent in any rational universe. Go back to burning trashcans and chanting your kindergarten slogans on the street.
Aside from the fact that the Border Patrol has had a corruption problem, which includes murder, rape, robbery, beatings, false arrests, and I believe smuggling with ICE having some of same but with the emphasis on framing, perjury, and theft, with all three being dysfunction useless waste of money, they are not equivalent at all.

:roll:

Also, as I have stated before, and state now, that as a nationalist, although I do think immigration is a good thing, the current de facto border policy is insane, so you fail, sir, in your point collecting. (Restated, open borders is nutz)

Anymore bullshit you want to add?

:clap:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Yeah, we should just not secure the border at all and let every one of the 7.1 billion human beings who want to come here just hike the fuck on in, because feelings and virtue signaling. You should give up all your shit and lose your livelihood first, though.
Please stop strawmaning me into some "the evil liberuls" caricature, or use me to argue with the story in your head rather than with me, and what I actually said.
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Re: TSA Fun

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:10 pm

So you want to abolish border patrol because you want to secure the border??

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Re: TSA Fun

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:15 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:So you want to abolish border patrol because you want to secure the border??
The entire agency is corrupt from top to bottom, just like the Chicago PD. They are some good people, and its function is needed, but I think it needs to be nuked, and completely rebuilt.
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Re: TSA Fun

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:35 pm

jbird4049 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:So you want to abolish border patrol because you want to secure the border??
The entire agency is corrupt from top to bottom, just like the Chicago PD. They are some good people, and its function is needed, but I think it needs to be nuked, and completely rebuilt.
Well apparently, we're going to add 15,000 more of them in 2 years, so that should help. :roll:
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Re: TSA Fun

Post by clubgop » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:56 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:For most of the Bush admin, the neocons defended that pile of elephant shit.
And the democrats went along because they would get access to union dues. Democrats lead the fight to nationalize airport security they were all bout it. Neocons created it with democrat assistance because it was about healing and bringing the country toget :puke-front: , which lead to such wonderful things like letting Ted Kennedy write your education bill, which oddly enough cut funds for drivers ed. Courses.

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Re: TSA Fun

Post by TheReal_ND » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:03 pm

nationalize airport security they were all bout it. Neocons created it with democrat assistance because it was about healing and bringing the country toget :puke-front:
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Re: TSA Fun

Post by jbird4049 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:18 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
jbird4049 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:So you want to abolish border patrol because you want to secure the border??
The entire agency is corrupt from top to bottom, just like the Chicago PD. They are some good people, and its function is needed, but I think it needs to be nuked, and completely rebuilt.
Well apparently, we're going to add 15,000 more of them in 2 years, so that should help. :roll:
But, but...it's job creation, Dude. Jobz!
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.