China, A Communist Nation

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by DrYouth » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:47 am

Thank you Bjorn...

It's nice to have someone else around here willing to combat the neo-McCarthyism.
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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by Calculus Man » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:50 am

Bjorn lost all credibility in this argument when he asserted that China has a free market economy. Only a sap mired in Marxism could say something so ridiculous.

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by BjornP » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:00 pm

Not sure Hash fits the bill of a neo-McCarthyist. It's just the post-modern trend of words meaning whatever one feels they should mean working its magic, plus Hash simply not being very knowledgeable about the world he's travelled in. I know from personal experience, living in a city which gets those huge ass cruise ships docking in for a couple of hours, spitting out tourists who wander the streets, crowding the popular photo ops spots, for three or four hours before the cruise sets off to Norway... That sort of travel generally doesn't impart alot of information.
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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:09 pm

Calculus Man wrote:Bjorn lost all credibility in this argument when he asserted that China has a free market economy. Only a sap mired in Marxism could say something so ridiculous.

They have an invested interest in keeping discussion away from their marxism. That's all this is.

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by BjornP » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:17 pm

Calculus Man wrote:Bjorn lost all credibility in this argument when he asserted that China has a free market economy. Only a sap mired in Marxism could say something so ridiculous.
Lol... yeah, I was wrong about it being a free market. That this means I must therefore be a sap mired in Marxism and that that detail makes everything else invalid, is not ridiculous. It's pathetic and lazy. Being wrong is being wrong. Unlike others, I have no problem admitting that. Stop pulling assumptions about my political beliefs out of your ass and do some basic research. Have I ever in all the time on the DCF or here advocated for the abolishment of privately owned means of production? Have I ever argued that "religion is the opiate of the masses"? How about believing in "alienation of the proletariat"? I surely must have advocated that, then?

No?

Then how's you either show the class where I have, or stop pulling your own shit out of your ass and throwing it at me, deal? :roll:

Even if they don't have a free market economy, allowing Chinese businesmen to become billionaires is still not the sort of project Mao would have endorsed. Hell, they even have a limited multi-party system now in some states. They still suck in terms of freedom, obviously. But so does Saudi Arabia... and last I checked, they weren't Marxist. Turns out you don't have to be Marxist to be a freedom-hater.
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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by BjornP » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:20 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
Calculus Man wrote:Bjorn lost all credibility in this argument when he asserted that China has a free market economy. Only a sap mired in Marxism could say something so ridiculous.

They have an invested interest in keeping discussion away from their marxism. That's all this is.
Not that no one will ever expect you to, but let's try it for the millionth time:

Provide actual evidence of me defending any Marxist dogma.
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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:22 pm

Other than the effects of Islam, Saudi Arabia would be a socialist's dream come true. Government hands out houses, education, health care, free money.. Just don't be gay or an uppity woman, or a Jew or Christian. But then.. that's how it was in the Soviet Union too.. so.. :roll:

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by BjornP » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:22 pm

Thought so...
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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:24 pm

The fact is, people across the western world have had quite enough of it. You might as well give up the ruse. You don't fool anybody with this fake nonpartisan crap.

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Re: China, A Communist Nation

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:25 pm

DrYouth wrote:Thank you Bjorn...

It's nice to have someone else around here willing to combat the neo-McCarthyism.

Turns out old McCarthy had a pretty good point. His mistake was in how he went about confronting it. He actually gave them a victory that set our civilization back generations.