Public School Education System Thread

[Smitty-48]

We've probably been spared that boondoggle by Quebec's states rights, no way the Frenchies are letting the Anglos take control of their schools, that would incite a revolt.

Well at least Quebec is good for something, like occasionally saving us from our own stupidity. Hooray for them.

Well, part of the deal which kept the peace, right back to 1759, is that the Frenchies would be able to run their own domestic affairs in Quebec, the British Crown essentially let the Roman Catholic church run the place, including the schools. Eventually the Frenchies revolted against their own church in the Quiet Revolution, but again, that was internal to Quebec, nothing the British Crown imposed on them.

[pineapplemike]

Instead it goes to pencil pushers and unnecessary technology

Boy that iPad rollout at LA Unified school district sure was a boondoggle, wasn't it?

[Ex-California]

Instead it goes to pencil pushers and unnecessary technology

Boy that iPad rollout at LA Unified school district sure was a boondoggle, wasn't it?

Everywhere they've instated iPads its been a boondoggle. LA should've learned from Chula Vista; that was a big news story when I worked for Fox 5

[Smitty-48]

The original sin of America was of course slavery, but a close second is that them Blue Bellies have then gone and tried to solve all the nations problems at the point of the Terrible Swift Sword from Washington, a Yankee Department of Education imposed on the States, an Orwellian Ministry of Truth therein, which even the Loyalists have balked at, it's no wonder School Choice is bringing the Democrats down in the districts.

[SuburbanFarmer]

Crazy that the United States of all places has a federal Department of Education, even lefty wefty centrally planned teachers union run Canada doesn't have a federal ministry of education, that's a provincial jurisdiction.

I don't think Republicans are "retarded' for being opposed to it, what is retarded, is that you have a federal Department of Education.

Yet another reason we are better than they are. Chairman Meow needs to rethink it being a good idea, the right actually has a point when they talk about scrapping the Department of Education. It's clearly holding their education system back, but too many people think throwing money at the problem and putting the federal government in charge actually makes things better.

You don't have 50 little governments trying to redefine what 'science' means, serving corporate masters, and arguing to implement their religious shit into biology class. We kind of need it, sadly.

I'm interested in alternative ideas, though. Do tell.

[Smitty-48]

You don't have 50 little governments trying to redefine what 'science' means, serving corporate masters, and arguing to implement their religious shit into biology class. We kind of need it, sadly.

I'm interested in alternative ideas, though. Do tell.

Nothing "alternative" about; education is not a role for a federal government, by the very definition of federal in the first place, no way in hell we would let the federal government run our provincial schools here, they have to cough up the cash, but the provincial legislatures decide the curriculum and how it will be spent, inposing a Federal Minisitry of Truth on a Confederation, is cray-cray, provinces are entitled to their provicincial jurisdictions, since 1759 in fact, Federal Minsitry of Truth was a bridge too far, for even the House of Hanover, never mind the American republic.

[SuburbanFarmer]

You don't have 50 little governments trying to redefine what 'science' means, serving corporate masters, and arguing to implement their religious shit into biology class. We kind of need it, sadly.

I'm interested in alternative ideas, though. Do tell.

Nothing "alternative" about; education is not a role for a federal government, by the very definition of federal in the first place, no way in hell we would let the federal government run our provincial schools here, they have to cough up the cash, but the provincial legislatures decide the curriculum and how it will be spent, inposing a Federal Minisitry of Truth on a Confederation, is cray-cray, provinces are entitled to their provicincial jurisdictions, since 1759 in fact, Federal Minsitry of Truth was a bridge too far, for even the House of Hanover, never mind the American republic.

So how many of your high-school graduates are taught that evolution doesn't exist, and fracking is good for you?

[Ex-California]

The original sin of America was of course slavery, but a close second is that them Blue Bellies have then gone and tried to solve all the nations problems at the point of the Terrible Swift Sword from Washington, a Yankee Department of Education imposed on the States, an Orwellian Ministry of Truth therein, which even the Loyalists have balked at, it's no wonder School Choice is bringing the Democrats down in the districts.

Completely disagree.

Without a federal government we'd be a hodgepodge of loser states like South America

Besides, kids, whether they are fruit&nut spawn, hillbilly spawn, or east coast trash spawn are all the same. Federal control of their education will go further to eliminate the sectional differences which are the real ongoing problem with America since the beginning.

Wildly differing curricula, funding, and philosophies are what have made the school system the mess they are today. That, combined with the normal government bloat and crony capitalism exacerbate it. Any school is dealing with multiple Departments of Education, from the local school board, to the state, to the Fed that all have their fingers in the pie. All they need is one leader. The school board is still needed for local matters, but there doesn't need to be an onion of administrative layers.

[Smitty-48]

So how many of your high-school graduates are taught that evolution doesn't exist, and fracking is good for you?

Not the point, the point is; the provinces will decide, it's not a federal government's role to impose a Ministry of Truth on the Confederation, there's only one taxpayer, and it is through the provincial legislatures wherein he decides how his children to are to be educated, the federal government has its own job to do, and stamping out provincial jurisdiction is not one of them, Her Majesty defends the right, including the right to provincial jurisdictions therein.

[SuburbanFarmer]

So how many of your high-school graduates are taught that evolution doesn't exist, and fracking is good for you?

Not the point, the point is; the provinces will decide, it's not a federal government's role to impose a Ministry of Truth on the Confederation, there's only one taxpayer, and it is through the provincial legislatures wherein he decides how his children to are to be educated, the federal government has its own job to do, and stamping out provincial jurisdiction is not one of them, Her Majesty defends the right, including the right to provincial jurisdictions therein.

My question stands. Which province is pushing to avoid evolution? Which one decided to blast students with corporate advertising in the classroom?

Canaderp has what, 12 provinces? Which one will actually teach their students to drink fracking water?