THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by Penner » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:35 pm

TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:29 pm
Penner wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:18 pm
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Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:13 pm


Nobody has done that until you guys did it. Bakers were not refusing to bake cakes for gay people. They were refusing to bake specific cakes for sacrilegious events. Don't try to conflate our refusing to participate in an immoral act with your wanting to act like fucking cunts.

You guys are total cunts, by the way. If you think this is okay, or it will end well, then you really do deserve the world of shit you have coming if you continue to escalate your hostilities against the rest of the American people.
If I remember correctly, you are the ones who are saying that private businesses can refuse to serve people. So, these are private business refusing to serve members of the Trump administration.
No. You arent allowed to deny services to people marginalized politically or otherwise. If you have a gay cake you must sell it to the gay "couple." Otherwise its straight back to marginalizing niggers etc.

If you are an artisan and being forced to craft something for something you find marginalizing then we have a Supreme Court Case for you.
So, once it becomes someone on your political side its not allowed? Your political side has been pushing this kind of thing for years now.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:37 pm

You notice no one here said anything about what's allowed except you?
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:42 pm

Penner wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:35 pm
TheReal_ND wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:29 pm
Penner wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:18 pm


If I remember correctly, you are the ones who are saying that private businesses can refuse to serve people. So, these are private business refusing to serve members of the Trump administration.
No. You arent allowed to deny services to people marginalized politically or otherwise. If you have a gay cake you must sell it to the gay "couple." Otherwise its straight back to marginalizing niggers etc.

If you are an artisan and being forced to craft something for something you find marginalizing then we have a Supreme Court Case for you.
So, once it becomes someone on your political side its not allowed? Your political side has been pushing this kind of thing for years now.
No one is forcing your hand. Discrimination of service is what was ruled. The Baker fucked up by having cakes for sale.

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Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:48 pm

Cake is also ceremonial. It's very hard to make a religious case out of post modern ceremony in all modern contexts.

I'm not saying I liked the ruling but to rule otherwise would pretty much buck the entire system. Would be cool tho

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Penner » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:10 pm

Don't have to go to restaurants either. People can just make food from home if they like it.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:18 pm

I really hope they don't keep doing this. It would really hurt republicans in the midterms if the left made a habit out of showing what hypocrites they are.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:56 pm

Trump owns the high ground on Immigration, and the lefties work their ass off to make immigration the issue of the mid terms

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:17 pm

The baker said he would make them any kind of cake except a wedding cake due to religious beliefs.

The restaurant had no such moral or ethic high grounds to stand upon.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:12 pm

The Conservative wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:17 pm
The baker said he would make them any kind of cake except a wedding cake due to religious beliefs.

The restaurant had no such moral or ethic high grounds to stand upon.
That wasn’t the argument used, was it.

It was about property rights and forcing people to do things they don’t want to.

Well this is the flip side of that.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by The Conservative » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:20 am

SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:12 pm
The Conservative wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:17 pm
The baker said he would make them any kind of cake except a wedding cake due to religious beliefs.

The restaurant had no such moral or ethic high grounds to stand upon.
That wasn’t the argument used, was it.

It was about property rights and forcing people to do things they don’t want to.

Well this is the flip side of that.
Actually, it was the argument used, and the reason that the SCOTUS used to see in the favor of the baker.

http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/opini ... cake-case/
The opinion seemed to leave open the possibility that, in a future case, a service provider’s sincere religious beliefs might have to yield to the state’s interest in protecting the rights of same-sex couples
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