Unite the Right

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:25 pm

Also, everyone's talking about IQ distribution across large groups of people as though it HAS to be used to apply on the individual level, which is just dumb.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:26 pm

Also this attack on me as if I think groups of people with lower average IQ scores are inferior to our own only belies their own prejudice. I don't believe that. It's nonsense. The only thing you guys have proven is that *you* believe it and you oppose the science in this case because you don't like where you think it leads (and it doesn't lead there).

Further, milspec said something that was atrocious, implying that I think individuals of a race are inferior to me and assume all of them have an inferior intelligence. I speak of the IQ distribution of races. Individuals fall somewhere on that distribution, and could very well fall in the far right side of the bell curve, denoting a relatively high IQ (possibly higher than my own). It would be foolish to infer from the average IQ distribution of a race the individual IQ of any given individual of that race. What milspecs engages in here is sloppy reasoning.

What's more, when we are talking about the mass migration of an entire race of people into our nation, THEN we ought to look at the IQ distribution of that group. THAT is where such things matter. And yet people like milspecs and others want to imply that, as long as they can find an outlier, they can prove the entire distribution is suitable for our society. Again: sloppy reasoning.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:27 pm

See, people talk a lot of shit about Hitler. But he did have one outstanding ideal that I find very admirable. He saw his people degenerating under the Weimar Republic after the Great War. He felt empathy for them because he was one of them. He went out of his way to help HIS people though. It was a complete reversal of fortune. The people felt like they had a chance again and they saw the state was helping THEM and not some foreign horde to succeed.

God forbid somebody like Trump tries to tap into that vein. The reeeing from all the kiked media would be eternal

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Post by Viktorthepirate » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:29 pm

Nukedog wrote:See, people talk a lot of shit about Hitler. But he did have one outstanding ideal that I find very admirable. He saw he's people degenerating under the Weimar Republic after the Great War. He felt empathy for them because he was one of them. He went out of his way to help HIS people though. It was a complete reversal of fortune. The people felt like they had a chance again and they saw the state was helping THEM and not some foreign horde to succeed.

God forbid somebody like Trump tries to tap into that vein. The reeeing from all the kiked media would be eternal

Ha ha ha wow. His definition of "his people" could be rather narrow at times. And woe to those who fall outside of it.

Shit nuke...

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by TheReal_ND » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:29 pm

I don't understand your point

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:31 pm

Viktorthepirate wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
Penner wrote:
Actually, no and I would like to see the info you are basing this on.


The book titled Troublesome Inheritance includes references to most of the scientific research on race and IQ.

As far as IQ not meaning anything, that's nonsense. IQ is one of the most well-understood concepts in psychology and cognitive science.
It's not "nonsense", it's up for debate. A quite vigorous one actually, with academic papers flying around from both sides.

There is far more debate than on climate science for example... speaking of which it's odd that you suddenly hold those authorities in such high regard when they agree with you.
It's really not. Geneticists and researchers simply have to hide their research behind euphemistic jargon to keep the PC inquisition off their backs. That problem is also covered in Troublesome Inheritance.

If you think that entire scientific field is not paranoid for good cause, consider what happened to several scientists who were ruined for simply publishing the truth, which really had nothing to do with "racism" at all.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Viktorthepirate » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:39 pm

The fact that many need to cover up their research behind euphemisms or avoid certain subjects is deplorable. In fact it only helps people looking to push forward bar room racial theories as science because they can say an actual debate isn't possible because of politics.

But I stand by my earlier assertion there is plenty of debate around IQ. The whole thing is publicly available. And it's not all post modernist nonsense saying it's invalid. Psychologists disagree with each other on it.

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:42 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Also this attack on me as if I think groups of people with lower average IQ scores are inferior to our own only belies their own prejudice. I don't believe that. It's nonsense. The only thing you guys have proven is that *you* believe it and you oppose the science in this case because you don't like where you think it leads (and it doesn't lead there).

Further, milspec said something that was atrocious, implying that I think individuals of a race are inferior to me and assume all of them have an inferior intelligence. I speak of the IQ distribution of races. Individuals fall somewhere on that distribution, and could very well fall in the far right side of the bell curve, denoting a relatively high IQ (possibly higher than my own). It would be foolish to infer from the average IQ distribution of a race the individual IQ of any given individual of that race. What milspecs engages in here is sloppy reasoning.

What's more, when we are talking about the mass migration of an entire race of people into our nation, THEN we ought to look at the IQ distribution of that group. THAT is where such things matter. And yet people like milspecs and others want to imply that, as long as they can find an outlier, they can prove the entire distribution is suitable for our society. Again: sloppy reasoning.
You were arguing that civilization would end if there weren't enough whites to do the civilizing and innovating. Problem is, the vast majority of whites, such as myself, had nothing to do with that, so obviously a rather small minority of the clever can do the heavy lifting for us plebs.

There are probably enough blacks n' browns outside the mean to keep civilization chugging along and shoulder the burden the white man dropped due to demographic replacement, I should think.

Or... were you NOT arguing that fewer whites meant the end of civilization, 'cause that is what I got.
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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Okeefenokee » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:42 pm

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Re: Unite the Right

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:45 pm

Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Also this attack on me as if I think groups of people with lower average IQ scores are inferior to our own only belies their own prejudice. I don't believe that. It's nonsense. The only thing you guys have proven is that *you* believe it and you oppose the science in this case because you don't like where you think it leads (and it doesn't lead there).

Further, milspec said something that was atrocious, implying that I think individuals of a race are inferior to me and assume all of them have an inferior intelligence. I speak of the IQ distribution of races. Individuals fall somewhere on that distribution, and could very well fall in the far right side of the bell curve, denoting a relatively high IQ (possibly higher than my own). It would be foolish to infer from the average IQ distribution of a race the individual IQ of any given individual of that race. What milspecs engages in here is sloppy reasoning.

What's more, when we are talking about the mass migration of an entire race of people into our nation, THEN we ought to look at the IQ distribution of that group. THAT is where such things matter. And yet people like milspecs and others want to imply that, as long as they can find an outlier, they can prove the entire distribution is suitable for our society. Again: sloppy reasoning.
You were arguing that civilization would end if there weren't enough whites to do the civilizing and innovating. Problem is, the vast majority of whites, such as myself, had nothing to do with that, so obviously a rather small minority of the clever can do the heavy lifting for us plebs.

There are probably enough blacks n' browns outside the mean to keep civilization chugging along and shoulder the burden the white man dropped due to demographic replacement, I should think.

Or... were you NOT arguing that fewer whites meant the end of civilization, 'cause that is what I got.

Because advanced technological civilization is dependent upon IQ among other factors. Factors which seem to depend upon race. I don't see an African space program.. The entire world is being dragged along by the West and to a lesser extent the north Asian nations (China, South Korea, Japan). That's it, dude.

It's not just technology and medicine either. It's food. The rest of the world never developed the adaptations that allowed them to get out of the Malthusian trap. The only reason they have the populations they do is because we keep feeding them with our surplus yields.

Now here you come wanting to undermine the genetic dispositions that gave rise to our particular form of civilization, and then you wonder why others might question the wisdom of it.