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by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:46 pm
StCapps wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:What the fuck do you think happens when somebody detonates a shaped fusion bomb in the upper atmosphere designed to maximize gamma radiation bursts?
EMP. We are talking about how much damage it will cause when it happens, no one is disputing if it's even a thing. Try to keep up, derpzilla.
You're being more obtuse than even drtrech used to stoop, this is next level obtuseness, right here.
You are all over place, child. I am not letting you off the hook. You spent several pages arguing this couldn't happen and disputing that an EMP is even possible.
Now that you finally realized how wrong you were, you are trying to make this about calculating the upper limit of fatalities if such an attack occurred which is a completely different issue from whether it's possible in the first place.
Admit you were dead wrong about the potential of an EMP to shutdown our entire electrical grid and communications network and only then will I address the fatality estimates.
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by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:48 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:StCapps wrote:Neither. Derp.
Wtf is wrong you? What could possibly make you think I was arguing anything of the sort?
Yet you keep calling me a retard..... maybe look in the mirror every once in a while?
Okay. Hold up.
You do NOT dispute that magnetism can be converted into current in a conductor and you do NOT dispute that gamma radiation burst in the atmosphere will create an expanding sphere of electromagnetism as the gamma rays bounce electrons off the the molecules in the air?
What the fuck do you think happens when somebody detonates a shaped fusion bomb in the upper atmosphere designed to maximize gamma radiation bursts?
Power plants across the nation spring into action, giving us an energy surplus for decades?
I suspect the generators would melt if the current were high enough.
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by StCapps » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:48 pm
Did drtrech and DSL, fuse like in DBZ, to form StA? Perhaps.
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by Smitty-48 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:49 pm
Just a technical note on EMP by fission v. fusion, single stage fission bombs actually have greater potential for EMP effect, because what happens with a two stage bomb, is that the first stage ejects the second stage higher into orbit, and it also incites pre-ionization, so for peak EMP, the optimum weapon would be a single stage fission bomb with no uranium casing around the pit, using a tritium booster rather than a lithium deuteride capsule second stage.
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by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:49 pm
StCapps wrote:Did drtrech and DSL, fuse like in DBZ, to form StA? Perhaps.
Are you willing to admit you were wrong about the possibility of an EMP attack shutting down our electrical grid and communication networks or not?
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by StCapps » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:51 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:I am not letting you off the hook. You spent several pages arguing this couldn't happen and disputing that an EMP is even possible.
Now that you finally realized how wrong you were, you are trying to make this about calculating the upper limit of fatalities if such an attack occurred which is a completely different issue from whether it's possible in the first place.
Admit you were dead wrong about the potential of an EMP to shutdown our entire electrical grid and communications network
That never happened, you are hallucinating.
Speaker to Animals wrote:and only then will I address the fatality estimates.
So you refuse to participate? See if I care, you aren't talking sense anyway, you just want to grandstand like I made an argument that I never even came close to making, and embarrassing yourself in the process. By all means keep digging a deeper hole though.
/shrugs
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by SuburbanFarmer » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:52 pm
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by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:55 pm
StCapps wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:I am not letting you off the hook. You spent several pages arguing this couldn't happen and disputing that an EMP is even possible.
Now that you finally realized how wrong you were, you are trying to make this about calculating the upper limit of fatalities if such an attack occurred which is a completely different issue from whether it's possible in the first place.
Admit you were dead wrong about the potential of an EMP to shutdown our entire electrical grid and communications network
That never happened, you are hallucinating.
Speaker to Animals wrote:and only then will I address the fatality estimates.
So you refuse to participate? See if I care, you aren't talking sense anyway, you just want to grandstand like I made an argument that I never even came close to making, and embarrassing yourself in the process, by all means keep digging a deeper hole though.
/shrugs
Fuck yourself. You were just saying it's not possible and there is no "proof" it's possible, yada yada. Anybody can read this thread, dummy.
Do you admit that an EMP attack is quite possible or not? If you want to admit you were wrong before, I am happy to discuss the completely different issue of the impact of such an attack. You just spent several pages of this thread denying it's even possible.
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by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:56 pm
StCapps wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:Again: go to college and then come back to talk to me about mathematics and physics you obviously don't understand. You are wasting everybody's time with this.
In physics they can test to see if it works in practice and not just on paper, to find out if the theory is correct, you haven't done that, all you have a speculative hypothesis, nothing more.
Admit you were wrong here.
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by Speaker to Animals » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:56 pm
StCapps wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:Go to college. Fuck off for now. You are ignorant.
You don't even know the difference between a hypothesis based on Chicken Little fantasies and a theory that actually has a lot of evidence to back the math that the theory is based on.
They actually test via observation to see if a hypothesis is correct in science, not just assume the hypothesis is correct before they observe anything. If anyone needs to go to college here, it's you Captain Confirmation Bias. Talk to me when we've observed the hypothesized effects, in a controlled scientific experiment of the appropriate scale, instead of just assuming that the most dangerous hypothesis, which plays into your SIFCLIF delusions, is the most correct one, before anyone even observes anything.
And here.