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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:40 pm
Nukedog wrote:If it's post hoc reasoning to assume our barbaric forebears conquered a declining civilization, maintained enough of it to enter the Enlightenment and go on to establish the only constitution that protects free speech and the right to bear arms simultaneously while going on to dominate the world and put men on the moon in the span of a hundred years then yeah. I'm kind of dubious about other races being able to perform the same story arc over the same period of time. Bell Curve be damned let's check in on Africa.
And supposing the cultural Marxist and jews finally get their way and wipe out their main opponent what then? Is Brazil going to be doing those orbital launches? All sources point to no.
The preservation of my people is so important it hinges on the preservation of all people. But you refuse to see it.
I have told you the kind of evidence I would have to see to accept that I am wrong.
Can you do the same?
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Aug 20, 2017 3:42 pm
Viktorthepirate wrote:Hanarchy Montanarchy wrote:Nukedog wrote:
If you look around with an objective eye it is only white people that care about the environment and even have the will to explore and conquer. Many races had civilizations long before Europeans even got to the Iron Age but something is different about our predisposition towards technological innovation and stewardship of nature that you can't find anywhere else. No I don't trust Brazil to get a meteor out of the way. I can't even count on them to pull off an olympics game. I'm sorry but you would be hard pressed to convince me that racial aspects don't play into the evolution of a nation state. History has pretty much taught us otherwise if I'm understanding it correctly. True enough other factors play in but I've never seen a civilization sustain ethnic cleansing and go on to advance either.
Now that we have mapped the human genome, if there
is, in fact, evidence that non-whites are phenotypically incapable of environmental stewardship, technological innovation, or anything else, we should be able to find the reason in their genome. Now, we can make some broad observations about demographics and things like IQ or crime rates, or any other thing, but that does not lead automatically to the conclusions you seem to be advocating. It also does not mean that it is rational to treat people as mere expressions of of a cultural or racial group. You can drag us back to a pre-enlightenment view of the individual if you like, but it is unlikely the results would be advantageous to anyone.
Pointing to how western civilization developed and then making the claim that it
had to be Europeans that developed these things is simply
post hoc reasoning, not objective evidence.
Such opinions are impervious to logic.
I am a big hearted, softy libtard with fealz to spare, so I don't believe that to be true of anyone. If you get past the edge and post-modern cynicism, I have always found Nuke to be eminently reasonable.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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Viktorthepirate
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by Viktorthepirate » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:02 pm
Well according to the IQ test I'm just about a fucking genius, which I'm not.
I also don't believe we are getting inherently more intelligent, which the IQ tests indicate.
If you play video games, you score higher.
It all indicates that it's not some kind of be all end all of intelligence measurement.
But anyways, it's western culture that has achieved all the stuff you attribute to race, not genetics.
But hey, a lot of people like being able to rely on things other than their own accomplishments to feel good about their place in the world. So whatever makes em happy I guess.
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Hanarchy Montanarchy
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by Hanarchy Montanarchy » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:14 pm
Viktorthepirate wrote:Well according to the IQ test I'm just about a fucking genius, which I'm not.
I also don't believe we are getting inherently more intelligent, which the IQ tests indicate.
If you play video games, you score higher.
It all indicates that it's not some kind of be all end all of intelligence measurement.
But anyways, it's western culture that has achieved all the stuff you attribute to race, not genetics.
But hey, a lot of people like being able to rely on things other than their own accomplishments to feel good about their place in the world. So whatever makes em happy I guess.
This is the big problem with the way people look at IQ.
It is simply a set of data that can be correlated with any other number of data sets. One of them is demographics.
The IQ test is not a genetic test, and demographics are not genetic observations, but it is easy to think of them that way.
HAIL!
Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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by TheReal_ND » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:24 pm
IQ is only one substrate of my inductive reasoning behind wanting to be with my people and not see them perish at the hands of disaffected Amerikaners. We also have FBI crime statistics, the absolutely objective deterioration of social trust in a multicult society and the fact that we are now reverse discriminating against white people to boot some other people to the front of the line for promotions and hiring and the back of the line for firing. I don't think they earned it. Yeah dude it totally sucks we imported your ancestors out of Africa, used you as farm equipment for a little while, then bent over backwards for you so that you could suceeed at the lowest expectations we required for you to be a presentable human being in America. Wait no. Nah.
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by Viktorthepirate » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:31 pm
Nukedog wrote:IQ is only one substrate of my inductive reasoning behind wanting to be with my people and not see them perish at the hands of disaffected Amerikaners. We also have FBI crime statistics, the absolutely objective deterioration of social trust in a multicult society and the fact that we are now reverse discriminating against white people to boot some other people to the front of the line for promotions and hiring and the back of the line for firing. I don't think they earned it. Yeah dude it totally sucks we imported your ancestors out of Africa, used you as farm equipment for a little while, then bent over backwards for you so that you could suceeed at the lowest expectations we required for you to be a presentable human being in America. Wait no. Nah.
Again, economic and culturally explained.
I don't see what melanin has to do with it. There are cultures and people within Africa with quite a bit genetic diversity yet you would paint them all in the same category because of skin color.
I know you're not too stupid to understand that. So why do you choose to ignore it?
Most people are too stupid to understand those nuances. But you're not stupid, so it's why you confuse me.
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by Speaker to Animals » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:35 pm
You are smarter than this. Race is proven to be correlated with IQ. There exist alleles predominant in each race that confer specific advantages, IQ among them. Races have completely different IQ distributions for a reason.
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Viktorthepirate
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by Viktorthepirate » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:36 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:You are smarter than this. Race is proven to be correlated with IQ. There exist alleles predominant in each race that confer specific advantages, IQ among them. Races have completely different IQ distributions for a reason.
I've addressed IQ above.
I'm not questioning the data, I'm questioning its relevancy.
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by Okeefenokee » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:36 pm
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Dumb slut partied too hard and woke up in a weird house. Ran out the door, weeping for her failed life choices, concerned townsfolk notes her appearance and alerted the fuzz.
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by MilSpecs » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:41 pm
Speaker to Animals wrote:You are smarter than this. Race is proven to be correlated with IQ. There exist alleles predominant in each race that confer specific advantages, IQ among them. Races have completely different IQ distributions for a reason.
Funny how some people have done little with their 'superior IQs.' Funnier how they think throwing everyone else out will suddenly make them winners at life.