UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat May 11, 2019 12:01 am

Your government actually prosecuted him for offending Nazis, but don't let that get in your way. LOL

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Post by Montegriffo » Sat May 11, 2019 12:04 am

If you say so.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat May 11, 2019 12:07 am

It is self-evident. If the punchline of the joke is that the most horrible thing you can make a dog do is imitate a Nazi, then the entire point of the joke is that Nazis are shit. Thus, if you are going to prosecute a man for making a joke that mocks Nazis as total shit, then you do so because the joke offends Nazis. Indeed, the actual Nazis went out of their way to try to punish people who made the exact same joke with 1930s era dogs. Just like the UK in our time. Precious.

Ipso facto: you're fucking dumb.

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Post by Montegriffo » Sat May 11, 2019 12:16 am

The dog saluting was not the problem.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by StCapps » Sat May 11, 2019 12:21 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 11:59 pm
Show me Dankula's apology. I never saw one.
Apologies are irrelevant.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by StCapps » Sat May 11, 2019 12:23 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 12:16 am
The dog saluting was not the problem.
Making a facetious joke about gassing the jews was though, because the mind readers said the only reason to make such a joke was the hate for jews in his heart. What would we do without the mindreaders to tell us what Dankula was thinking?

Dankula supports UKIP and he didn't apologize for offending people who shouldn't be offended and refused to cave to their idiotic narrative that he actually wants the jew gassed, therefore he hates jews, great mindreading right there. No way they are using a lame interpretation of a poorly written law to legally attack someone whose opinions they don't like, no chance at all, montegriffo trusts the authorities, therefore the authorities are trustworthy.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by Montegriffo » Sat May 11, 2019 1:03 am

StCapps wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 12:21 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 11:59 pm
Show me Dankula's apology. I never saw one.
Apologies are irrelevant.
So you can't find one.

A lack of apology is very relevant. It shows he knew what he was doing and is unrepentant.
He was offending holocaust survivors in order to gain fame.
£900 was his price for worldwide fame.
Now he is trying to enter politics for a xenophobic party with nothing to offer but his notoriety.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by StCapps » Sat May 11, 2019 1:07 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 1:03 am
StCapps wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 12:21 am
Montegriffo wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 11:59 pm
Show me Dankula's apology. I never saw one.
Apologies are irrelevant.
So you can't find one.

A lack of apology is very relevant. It shows he knew what he was doing and is unrepentant.
He was offending holocaust survivors in order to gain fame.
£900 was his price for worldwide fame.
Now he is trying to enter politics for a xenophobic party with nothing to offer but his notoriety.
No it doesn't show he knows that he was being hateful, it shows he is unrepentant that idiots thought it was him being hateful instead of a joke designed to point out how hateful Nazi's are. Your mindreading skills are unimpressive, and the basis for your hate speech argument, which just proves my point about the authorities not being trustworthy mindreaders who are interpreting vague laws and reaching to legally attack people whose political opinions they don't like, via bad mindreading.

Hate speech laws are stupid, there is no arbiter you should trust to draw that line, the fact that you do trust them to draw that line, just draws your judgement into question.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by Montegriffo » Sat May 11, 2019 1:44 am

So now you can read Dankula's mind and apply motivations for his actions that he has never claimed.

The law is motivated by the desire to reduce racial hatred which leads to race crimes.

You on the other hand support the right of ISIS to post recruitment videos full of hatred for the West.

What the world needs is less hate and division and self interested race baiters like Tommy Robinson (NHRN) and Nazi pugs guy.

This is just free speech warriors trying to stir up hate and division hiding behind free speech.
Europe is fighting back because they are well aware of where unrestricted hate speech leads.
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Re: UK's biggest welfare family have another baby

Post by StCapps » Sat May 11, 2019 1:56 am

Montegriffo wrote:
Sat May 11, 2019 1:44 am
So now you can read Dankula's mind and apply motivations for his actions that he has never claimed.

The law is motivated by the desire to reduce racial hatred which leads to race crimes.

You on the other hand support the right of ISIS to post recruitment videos full of hatred for the West.

What the world needs is less hate and division and self interested race baiters like Tommy Robinson (NHRN) and Nazi pugs guy.

This is just free speech warriors trying to stir up hate and division hiding behind free speech.
Europe is fighting back because they are well aware of where unrestricted hate speech leads.
Dankula claimed it was a joke pointing out the idiocy of Nazi's, and how the joke wasn't made in hate as you claim, he simply didn't apologize for offending people who were looking to be offended. You just don't accept his word, and prefer your own mindreading, I am simply giving him the benefit of the doubt, and don't trust your courts to read his mind and determine his motive based on this poorly worded vague law, and I don't trust you to do that either.

Restricting free speech does not reduce racial hatred which leads to hate crimes, that may be the intention, but the results don't match the intentions and are counter-productive. By trying to reduce racial hatred via censorship, that fuels the hatred by silencing the opposition and giving them even more reasons to lash out.

If you truly want less race baiters in the world, censorship doesn't help that cause, you might feel like it does help your cause, but you have no evidence to back that up, just feelz. Yet you want to restrict fundamental human freedoms based on nothing but feelz, so you might want to rethink the utility of censorship in attaining your desired outcome.
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