Finland - No Homeless

[Speaker to Animals]

I had Florida tags the whole time. I used to drive up into remote ranch towns in the middle of the Sawtooths. They were so friendly. Always waving and quick to help out. God's people, I say.

[doc_loliday]

Well here I am ready to bury the hatchet.

IM SORRY IDAHO. LET THERE BE PEACE ONCE AGAIN.

[Speaker to Animals]

All for a bunch of water that may or may not have been stolen too.

I don't think it works like that. I don't know what started it, but the hate goes back farther than living memory.

[doc_loliday]

Yeah, I don't know either. Maybe they were just ahead of the curve, nobody likes getting pushed around by California politics. I mean, I live here and I hate them too.

But there are a lot of Mormons up there, so I used to go a lot as a kid. Beautiful place.

[Speaker to Animals]

http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/loca ... 20672.html

Explains a little bit. I am on my phone and not really able to research the cause very well.

I am really not exaggerating their hatred.

Wonderful people, though, if you are not a Californian. I miss Idaho.

[K@th]

Anti-Californian sentiment has gripped Idaho for generations. Has anything changed?

[doc_loliday]

Makes sense to me. California has a huge population. There are always going to be people that hate living in large cities. People that can move have money. Nobody like their towns changing, and it doubly sucks when the people that come in have more money.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's also just that fucking attitude that Californians have that most of America actually really does hate. I don't remember all the details back then, but the way California pursued it in the courts, they were demanding that Idahoans prove they were using that water that it wouldn't be appropriated for California. They made it a moral issue, like Idahoans were "wasting" water that wasn't going to California. That shit tends to piss people off, especially when you are talking about water.

Where I live now, Asheville and the surrounding towns all decided to use their own tax dollars from property taxes to build a water reservoir for the entire region. We all get water from the same water supply which is located near Black Mountain. Any of you who read that novel about the EMP attack (One Second After) know about this reservoir.

But then counties well to the east of here, who never did anything about establishing their own water security, started having water troubles and demanded our water. State legislators then all "voted" that we have to give up a lot of our water for these other counties that never spent a dime to build their own reservoirs. We took it to the courts, but I think the do-nothing SCOTUS declined to hear the case. That type of shit really pisses people off. When water is involved, shit can get ugly.

It was the same kind of argument. We were "hording" water and they needed it. The fact that we spent our own tax dollars to build this fucking thing was irrelevant. The fact that they spent all that time without paying additional taxes to build that water capacity was irrelevant. It's fucking infuriating.

[Speaker to Animals]

Here's an article from the timeframe when I was there that explains it perfectly:

COEUR D'ALENE, Ida. — Each year, the winds of August bring a smoky controversy to this bustling Northwest city, pitting a stubborn stock of locals against a quirky new breed of resident: The ex-Californian.

That's when farmers set fire to 40,000 acres of bluegrass in a time-tested technique to add nitrogen to the soil and increase crop yields. Throughout August--prime tourist season in rural northern Idaho--the skies above Kootenai County blacken with billowing plumes of soot, a surefire signal of the Potato State's biggest rhubarb.

Like thousands of other environmentally conscious California transplants, John Mann watches the streaks of smoke trail low over Coeur d'Alene Lake and its international-resort hotel, over blue-collar housing tracts sprouting from once-virgin forest land and massive, newly built mansions that locals refer to as "California dance halls."

And he fumes.

"You show me somebody who doesn't complain about the smoke and I'll show you an idiot," says the former Thousand Oaks resident, frowning in distaste. "But these farmers are given free rein--just because this is the way they've always done things.

"I just don't get it. This would never happen in California."

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-08-08/ ... daho-state


Then go back to California, genius.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Only 37% of Seattle’s homeless accept offers of free shelter. You tell me, what’s the opt-out ratio look like?

It’s cold and rainy here, btw. I’m case our resident geniuses are unfamiliar with Seattle’s climate.

Not choosing a shelter is not 'opting' to be homeless.

A shelter isn't a home, it is just being homeless inside. Some people would prefer to be homeless outside. Which, I would expect, is a considerably cheaper solution.