“More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by jediuser598 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:57 am

Kath wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:Substantiated claim of having an above average intelligence?
I could cite a few personal statistics, but that wouldn't prove anything to you. All my claims are meaningless on a forum like this. Do you believe me when I tell you I'm an average cook, but super smart when it comes to talking with data?
It's a good question, how do we determine intelligence in a way that's able to weather challenge? How do we say "this person is above average, that person is below average." I mean, one metric is IQ.

What I would challenge is an assertion that "Well I'm above average, because I say so." Well a subjective metric is a subjective metric, there's not always a whole lot of objective truth there. It's a bad metric to rely on. One is obligated to say "well, what proof do you have?"

I mean we can do sniff test, but, again, that's a subjective test as well. "Well their logic seems bad to me" "Well maybe you're bad at telling good logic."

So, what's the objective metric?
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by jediuser598 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:12 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Kath wrote:
jediuser598 wrote:[
Prove it.
Why? Is there a prize if I win?
Win?
You’ve confused him with someone who believes in meritocracy.
There is no winning because there can be no competition. But if you recite your demographics to him and recount the evils of capitalism, religion, and banks there might be a retweet and a Facebook like in it for you.
:P
Your obsession with social media is pretty deeply ingrained in you. I have neither twitter nor facebook. I get that you don't get to exercise your conservatism at work or on social media because of social repercussions, and you come here to exercise them, but the problem is both parties. Both parties are actively destroying, and maintaining the destruction of our civil liberties. You think one's a shoplifter and the other a serial killer because one side is holding you down and beating you nearly daily.

In reality, it's both sides. Wake up. You're so focused on your little battle in your life that you can't really see the whole war going on about you.
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:16 pm

A valid IQ test administered by a professional would give you a decent idea of your general intelligence level. Most people are average. Most women, in particular, are average. There exists more variability amongst men, but we still have the same average (just not as many of us clustered there).

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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by nmoore63 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:17 pm

I would imagine that the average IQ of the DCF of MHF are both above average.

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Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:18 pm

nmoore63 wrote:I would imagine that the average IQ of the DCF of MHF are both above average.

Nah. If it's above average, it's only slightly above.

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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by nmoore63 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:24 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:I would imagine that the average IQ of the DCF of MHF are both above average.

Nah. If it's above average, it's only slightly above.
The average is pretty stupid.

To register on a forum and such takes initiative.

Weeds out a bottom factor, I would imagine.

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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:28 pm

nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:I would imagine that the average IQ of the DCF of MHF are both above average.

Nah. If it's above average, it's only slightly above.
The average is pretty stupid.

To register on a forum and such takes initiative.

Weeds out a bottom factor, I would imagine.

The average is not stupid. It's literally average. Stupid is below average. The vast majority of people are clustered around the average IQ for their race. For us, that's around 100.

Initiative is not intelligence. Lots of stupid people have initiative. The prisons are full of guys like that. Lots of intelligent people lack initiative as well.

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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by DrYouth » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:33 pm

DBTrek wrote:People that eschew meritocracy generally believe that they can’t compete well (aka they’re average or below), and therefore prefer systems based on demographics, tenure, length of service, amorphous concepts of what’s “fair” etc. - you know, systems where being born and identifying problems/victims is sufficient for success and sometimes victory.
;)
I would dispute this...

Those that eschew meritocracy fall into two camps... those that fit the bill with what you just said.
And a substantial group of "privileged" men and women that want to helicopter parent those they perceive as weak and vulnerable.

This second group, I would suggest, are by far the more annoying of the two.
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by DBTrek » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:35 pm

I propose we raise our glasses to the victimized masses who are beaten up daily by a tyrannical philosophy espousing personal responsibility, Protestant work ethic, family values, and the virtue of striving to do ones best.

Poor babies.

Cheers!
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Re: “More Democrats Should Be Calling for the Repeal of the Second Amendment”

Post by nmoore63 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 12:35 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:

Nah. If it's above average, it's only slightly above.
The average is pretty stupid.

To register on a forum and such takes initiative.

Weeds out a bottom factor, I would imagine.

The average is not stupid. It's literally average. Stupid is below average. The vast majority of people are clustered around the average IQ for their race. For us, that's around 100.

Initiative is not intelligence. Lots of stupid people have initiative. The prisons are full of guys like that. Lots of intelligent people lack initiative as well.
Normal is average.
Stupid can be relative.
Most people are stupid.

Were it possible, I would still put $5 that we are above the average.

(at least the dcf, not as sure about the mhf - DCF was created around a political and historical podcast that largely catered to more intelligent people. MHF seems to be a bit different of a cat, but I would imagine that gene remains)... but I'd still put the $5 down.

There are lots of things that I would imagine a group of beats the average.