Daniel Shaver shooting

[nmoore63]

It's murder. Cops should have to mount an affirmative defense for shooting somebody, no differently than any other American.

You shoot an unarmed man who is on the ground crying for his life, and you should have to prove that you had good reason to do so. The fact that you killed an innocent man is irrefutable.

The only way I can see this as not murder, is if the training basically brainwash the cops where they actually do fear for their lives for anything and everything.

In that case, it's the department that should be tried for being an accessory to murder. And the cop should still be locked up for being insane.

I would agree.

I would need to see affirmative training that this was what he was supposed to do. Ask a hysterical person, prone with arms outstretched, to leave that position and crawl.

[Otern]

For those that see the negligence:

The main question left for me is why the acquittal?

Only 1 out of 50 folks or so that I have shown this to thinks it was ok. Yet 12 out of 12 jurors.

Is it simply that the judicial system is incapable being unbiased with respect to the police force?

(i.e. that the prosecution, defense and judge dealt with the case differently than they do civilian ones)

I thought the jury was shown an edited video of this? I may be wrong here though.

[Speaker to Animals]

Sorry, but the law doesn't seem to make the exceptions people believe it does. The fact is that this cop shot dead an innocent man who was on the ground pleading for his life. His only legal recourse at that point should have been an affirmative defense. Just saying "Well, I am a cop and I don't want to risk my life" should not fly.

That was murder. If this were a man responding to a home intruder and the intruder was on the ground pleading for his life when the home owner executed him after the intruder failed a bizarre Simon Say's ritual, the homeowner would get convicted of murder. We all know this. For some reason, certain people short circuit their rationality when cops commit these crimes and assume it's okay because he's a cop. It's definitely not okay.

[nmoore63]

For those that see the negligence:

The main question left for me is why the acquittal?

Only 1 out of 50 folks or so that I have shown this to thinks it was ok. Yet 12 out of 12 jurors.

Is it simply that the judicial system is incapable being unbiased with respect to the police force?

(i.e. that the prosecution, defense and judge dealt with the case differently than they do civilian ones)

I thought the jury was shown an edited video of this? I may be wrong here though.

I am not sure.

[nmoore63]

Sorry, but the law doesn't seem to make the exceptions people believe it does. The fact is that this cop shot dead an innocent man who was on the ground pleading for his life. His only legal recourse at that point should have been an affirmative defense. Just saying "Well, I am a cop and I don't want to risk my life" should not fly.

That was murder. If this were a man responding to a home intruder and the intruder was on the ground pleading for his life when the home owner executed him after the intruder failed a bizarre Simon Say's ritual, the homeowner would get convicted of murder. We all know this. For some reason, certain people short circuit their rationality when cops commit these crimes and assume it's okay because he's a cop. It's definitely not okay.

The in practice law apparently does.

Is it in the Jury or in the Judicial System that presents it to the jury?

[Ph64]

I for the life of me can't figure out why the crawling thing other than the cop being on a complete (and inappropriate) power trip. I mean the guy was face down on the floor, hands over his head and feet crossed, why not just have a cop kneel on his back and cuff him while the other covers with the gun? The whole crawling thing was totally pointless as far as I can see.

Any normal person doing this would be guilty of murder.

[Speaker to Animals]

You can see here how "blue lives matter" is as toxic as "black lives matter".

Daniel Shaver's life mattered too. Maybe everybody's lives matter.

[Fife]

[Fife]

[Speaker to Animals]

That's actually really bad. A car decal is fine, but defacing an actual flag like that is a no-go.