Income Inequality

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SilverEagle » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:08 am

PartyOf5 wrote:
SilverEagle wrote: I couldn't agree more GCF. The State views us as worker drones to be used at their disposal from the time we're born to the time we die. For those of you that don't believe/see that ask yourself this.....What happens if your child does not goes to school? Yep that's right the child belongs to the State and you YOU. What happens if you don't pay your property or income taxes? You are forced to do all of that and more by the threat of a gun, literally. Your ass is owned by the State because they said fuck you to freedom long before you or I was born. GCF is correct we all live in a cell with some carrots and sticks to get into a slightly nicer cell but its still a cell in the end. Freedom is a myth...a cute story that we're all fed as children. The only time/way to have freedom is to live as an outlaw but the risks are great. Sometimes you can walk in both worlds and that can get you killed but the taste of true freedom is sweet for the moment you have it.
That's dark. Mainly because you agree with GCF, but the rest has some dark parts too.

I'm not totally on board with the whole notion of not having any freedom and just being in a nice cell. My job is kinda like that, but after I clock out I have quite a bit of freedom. This isn't the wild west anymore, but the country is not one giant concentration camp run by mysterious corporate elites from a glass skybox. I think you're on the right track though.

One thing you should add to your rant is that the general population are not just worker drones but drone consumers as well. You need both in order to keep the machine running.
You don't have true freedom my friend. None of us do. Our parents had more freedom, our grandparents had even more freedom than our parents, and so on and so on. This institutionalized freedom just does not sit well with me and others but a large majority seem to be comfortable with it so far. If that was not the case then the country would be on fire. However income inequality and lack of real opportunity for start up business is starting to wake up the masses.
There is a time for good men to do bad things.

For fuck sake, 1984 is NOT an instruction manual!

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by PartyOf5 » Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:46 am

Define true freedom.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:27 am

PartyOf5 wrote:Define true freedom.

The ability to achieve your purpose in life.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SilverEagle » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:44 am

PartyOf5 wrote:Define true freedom.
To be able to do what you want when you want as long as you're not harming or infringing on others liberty. Pretty basic idea. Don't over think it.
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:06 pm

SilverEagle wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote:Define true freedom.
To be able to do what you want when you want as long as you're not harming or infringing on others liberty. Pretty basic idea. Don't over think it.

That's actually licentiousness.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SilverEagle » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:03 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:
SilverEagle wrote:
PartyOf5 wrote:Define true freedom.
To be able to do what you want when you want as long as you're not harming or infringing on others liberty. Pretty basic idea. Don't over think it.

That's actually licentiousness.
More like Anarchy.
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:07 pm

No, absence of moral restraints is literally licentiousness.
Definition of licentious
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: lacking legal or moral restraints; especially : disregarding sexual restraints licentious behavior licentious revelers
2
: marked by disregard for strict rules of correctness

It's common for people in our age to confuse licentiousness with liberty.

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SilverEagle » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:16 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:No, absence of moral restraints is literally licentiousness.
Definition of licentious
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: lacking legal or moral restraints; especially : disregarding sexual restraints licentious behavior licentious revelers
2
: marked by disregard for strict rules of correctness

It's common for people in our age to confuse licentiousness with liberty.
I said as long as people did not infringe on others liberty. Murder would be infringing on someones liberty and a law would make murder illegal. Therefore my definition of freedom would not be licentious. BTW do you love to argue over semantics? I find it a GIANT waste of time as well as a thread derail-er.
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Re: Income Inequality

Post by apeman » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:22 pm

He sees libertarians as godless vice chasers devoted only to their own depravity, so when liberty comes up, he needs to shoehorn a definition of liberty that includes restrictions on immoral behavior

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Re: Income Inequality

Post by SilverEagle » Tue Feb 28, 2017 1:26 pm

apeman wrote:He sees libertarians as godless vice chasers devoted only to their own depravity, so when liberty comes up, he needs to shoehorn a definition of liberty that includes restrictions on immoral behavior
I see. He views us as godless heathens that jackoff to monkey porn while fling poo out of a slingshot at passing cars. :angry-devil:

:character-oldtimer: Freedom is the devil!
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