Civil War Doomsday Clock

[pineapplemike]

i demand the blood of tyrants

[Speaker to Animals]

i demand the blood of tyrants

Zuckerberg first.

[Zlaxer]

What would be awesome is if CA tried to secede if GOP wins BIGLY this NOV....

[The Conservative]

What would be awesome is if CA tried to secede if GOP wins BIGLY this NOV....

They tried, courts denied the vote to stay on the bill. They also denied the vote to split CA into three states.

[Hastur]

Another good piece by VDH dissecting the current divide and giving a historical perspective going back to the Civil War.


https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/ ... alization/

The Issues That Tore Us Apart

Our differences — on immigration, race, the role of work, the value of America itself — are intensifying.
Slavery was the issue that blew up America in 1861 and led to the Civil War.

But for the 85 years between the nation’s founding and that war, it had seemed that somehow America could eventually phase out the horrific institution and do so largely peacefully.

But by 1861, an array of other differences had magnified the great divide over slavery. The plantation class of the South had grown fabulously rich — and solely dependent — on King Cotton and by extension slave labor. It bragged that it was supplying the new mills of the industrial revolution in Europe and had wrongly convinced itself that not just the U.S. but also Britain could not live without Southern plantations.

Federal tariffs hurt the exporting South far more than the North. Immigration and industrialization focused on the North, often bypassing the rural, largely Scotch-Irish South, which grew increasingly disconnected culturally from the North.

By 1861, millions of Southerners saw themselves as different from their Northern counterparts, even in how they sounded and acted. And they had convinced themselves that their supposedly superior culture of spirit, chivalry, and bellicosity, without much manufacturing or a middle class, could defeat the juggernaut of Northern industrialism and the mettle of Midwestern yeomanry.

Something similar to that array of differences is slowly intensifying America’s traditional liberal–conservative and Democratic-Republican divides.

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Then he discusses in detail

I. Globalization
II. Clustering
III. Open Borders
IV. The Salad Bowl
and
V. The Post-War Order

He also talks about this column in his latest podcast.

https://www.hoover.org/research/classic ... -divide-us

The Things that Divide Us
November 19, 2018

With the midterm elections underscoring the deep divides in American politics, Victor Davis Hanson gives his diagnosis of the factors driving political polarization.

[Zlaxer]

Another good piece by VDH dissecting the current divide and giving a historical perspective going back to the Civil War.

Collectivism is a death cult - looks like we're headed towards balkanization....Federal government has a good chance of collapsing in next 50 years....once Congress looses authority....states will go their own ways....just hoping the progressive plague can be contained until then....

That is what you should plan for your bloodline.....hold out till balkanization, then pick a state to plant your roots.....then be ready to defend your new homeland from the progressive hoards....

[C-Mag]

This pretty well describes my view of the current situation, with some small reservations.

The dominant cultural position occupied by the overlords of chattel slavery has its analogy today in the overlords of America’s Blue elite. While there is a vocal Red elite, the Blue elite dominates public life through its hold on the Internet, Hollywood, publishing, social media, academia, the Washington bureaucracy, and the global grip of corporate giants. Blue elite’s power, in its hold on the cultural pulse and economic lifeblood of American life, compares granularly to the planter aristocracy of the 1850s.

Ruling elites famously overthrown by history—like the Ancien Régime in France, Czarist Russia, and even the Antebellum South—were fated by their insatiable selfishness, their impenetrable arrogance, and their sneering aloofness from the despised people—“the deplorables”—upon whom their own economic status feasted.

Today’s Blue elite represents the greatest concentration of wealth and power in the United States. Moreover, such wealth is scattered across a mosaic of pristine, manicured, gated communities physically and socially divorced from the realities of normal American life—glittering bubbles of sovereign privilege. This is the very oligarchy Founders like John Adams so feared. While both Red and Blue elites represent themselves as the people’s champion, Blue’s protests ring the most false.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... civil-war/

I would add that these mostly Blue Elites have have coopted control of the US Justice System and Federal Constabulary. Further, they have allies on the Red Team.

[Speaker to Animals]

The Chamber of Commerce and libertarian types are essentially a fifth column infesting the GOP.

[Fife]

In your opinion, who is the best currently serving GOP senator? I'm trying to imagine your prototype for the way forward.

[Speaker to Animals]

What is my alternative? Give up , stop voting, and let the democratic party annihilate the American people?

Democrats want for people like us to give up. The more people like us vote, the more likely we get committed candidates in the GOP instead of Chamber of Commerce stooges and liberals ("libertarians", LOL).