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Post by kybkh » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:23 am

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:Sounds like someone's tired of winning--so soon? There's more winning to be done, man. Keep your rifle clean, Kentucky!
Maintaining this level of readiness is taxing on an economy. We just did a system conversion here at work and I gotta make a ton of butter to keep up. The guns will have to fall silent for a while. #PowderAlwaysDry
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Post by kybkh » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:27 am

Here, if you guys want to be triggered listen to these "experts" discuss how Trump is gonna start WW3 with RU because he has no strategy.

https://www.vox.com/2017/6/22/15845794/ ... ce-worldly

The Jennifer chick could not be any more representative of all I despise of the Liberal hawks.
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Post by TheReal_ND » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:46 am

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Quick debunking of the most egregious lies:
SCOTUS didn't rule on anything, it will be judged only in October
False. They ruled at least three important matte concerning to the main points brought forward by the parties involved
1) only parties with pre existing relationship (familiar or comercial) can bring forward suits meaning no "take alien as client then sue on his behalf", no states suing because hypothetical "rocket scientists and brain surgeons" from those countries can be invited to give lectures
2) only the letter of the EO can be used as evidence, not the context surrounding it meaning "it would be legal under Obama but Trump said a mean thing so fuck the constitution"was BTFO
3) the injunction was too broad in scope and, because of 1) must be obtained on a case by case basis and can't block the implementation neither of the ban not of the other clauses (50k cap on refugees, prioritizing "persecuted religious minorities" meaning Syrian Christians)

All in all the summary is:

-travel ban is back to affecting the tens of millions of people in those six countries
-the low thousand of people that can find standing can sue but it's the discretion of the executive or the victory in the long drawn case that can grant that one person (not a group or a class of person) entry.

The DHS can always find another reason other than the EO to deny entry though and they are already doing it.

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Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:57 am

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:The Supreme Court has made a limited* ruling upholding Trump's travel ban, temporarily making the ninth and fourth federal circuit courts' decisions null and void until the Supremes once again address the issue in the Fall. Nine-nothing!
*Exemptions made for individuals otherwise qualified by close and verifiable familial relationships or with other entities.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:58 am

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:Even that semi-comatose Ginsberg must've sworn off her vodka and xanax cocktails long enough to realize that part of the US Code which reads, essentially, The President can ban anyone, or any group, at anytime, for any reason, from migrating to the US... was written very clearly. :roll:
seems pretty thin.
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Post by Okeefenokee » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:59 am

Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Alexander PhiAlipson wrote:Even that semi-comatose Ginsberg must've sworn off her vodka and xanax cocktails long enough to realize that part of the US Code which reads, essentially, The President can ban anyone, or any group, at anytime, for any reason, from migrating to the US... was written very clearly. :roll:
"Migrating" is not the same thing as "traveling".
Tile 8, Chapter 12, US Code 1182
Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate. Whenever the Attorney General finds that a commercial airline has failed to comply with regulations of the Attorney General relating to requirements of airlines for the detection of fraudulent documents used by passengers traveling to the United States (including the training of personnel in such detection), the Attorney General may suspend the entry of some or all aliens transported to the United States by such airline.
Better?
that could mean anything.
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