Trump's Economic Plan

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by apeman » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:49 am

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:53 am

We can afford to clean up a spill from a container car. We cannot afford to clean up the spill from Keystone rupturing.

How about this: Canada agrees to pay ALL costs of a rupture of their pipeline causing their oil to damage our land and environment. See how far that deal goes.

Keystone is the epitome of nation's taking advantage of Americans.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by ssu » Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:59 am

StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Rail obviously is not as risky as a transcontinental pipeline. It simply cuts into your bottom line.

If you want to build a pipeline across our nation, then you should make it worth our while. This is our territory.
Rail is more dangerous and obviously so, pipelines are the safest method of oil transportation on top of it also being the cheapest method, double win.
Only road transport is more unsafe than rail. And naturally a pipeline is far more economic. Now I'm a big fan for rail transport, but something like oil or gas simply can be transported far more efficiently by a pipeline.

Seriously talking, the way oil is transported is By ship and pipelines. Rail or road is rather idiotic...and not so common, even in the US:

Notice the differences in millions of barrells:
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:35 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:We can afford to clean up a spill from a container car. We cannot afford to clean up the spill from Keystone rupturing.
It won't just be one car spilling it will be a great many, transporting the oil that would have went through the keystone xl pipeline by rail will cost you more in the long run. Pipelines are safer for the environment dude and more efficient for the economy, it's a double win, anyone telling you otherwise is misleading you. Keystone XL may help us more than it helps you, but that doesn't mean it's a bad deal for you.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:02 pm

StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:We can afford to clean up a spill from a container car. We cannot afford to clean up the spill from Keystone rupturing.
It won't just be one car spilling it will be a great many, transporting the oil that would have went through the keystone xl pipeline by rail will cost you more in the long run. Pipelines are safer for the environment dude and more efficient for the economy, it's a double win, anyone telling you otherwise is misleading you. Keystone XL may help us more than it helps you, but that doesn't mean it's a bad deal for you.

Still not nearly as much that spills out of a ruptured pipeline.

Pay for your own oil transport and pay for the risks therein. Don't free ride you fucking welfare queens.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:07 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Still not nearly as much that spills out of a ruptured pipeline.
More spills out via other methods of transport than a ruptured pipeline, including rail. The only reason the more oil spills through pipelines is because more oil runs through pipelines than other methods of transportation not because it's less safe than other methods. If as much oil was being transported by rail as via pipeline more oil would spill being transported via train than by pipeline. Pipelines are safer.
Speaker to Animals wrote:Pay for your own oil transport and pay for the risks therein. Don't free ride you fucking welfare queens.
We are willing to give you a better deal, but the deal you want isn't to Canada's advantage, you want a deal where the US gets everything and Canada gets nothing, and that isn't going to happen.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:09 pm

It's our property. You are the ones who should be trying to make a deal to our advantage. It's no skin off our back. We are a net exporter too.

Actually, come to think of it, we should block all your oil exports that go through our territory to keep prices high.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:11 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:It's our property. You are the ones who should be trying to make a deal to our advantage. It's no skin off our back. We are a net exporter too.

Actually, come to think of it, we should block all your oil exports that go through our territory to keep prices high.
I know it's your property and the deal it to your advantage. You just wish the deal was even more in your favor than it already is and less in our favor, and I get that. But you are fronting like the deal isn't to your advantage at all, and that's bullshit.
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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:12 pm

The deal as it stands offers us practically nothing.

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Re: Trump's Economic Plan

Post by StCapps » Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:12 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:The deal as it stands offers us practically nothing.
That's still more than nothing you faggot. You just want more and you'll get more, just not the highway robbery of Canada that you are after is all. The deal should not be rigged entirely in America's favor and to our detriment and that is what you propose in place of a win-win. Kindly fuck off.

You are just anti-oil and reflexively hate on pipelines, I see how it is. Can't wait for you to bring up the peak oil myth into this argument like the fool that you are on this subject.
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