THE ERA OF TRUMP

[Cid]

Meanwhile, this is after Carlin asserted his own "grand" strategy of just seeding the Russian border with nukes outside of American control, by handing them out willy nilly to Eastern European countries, which is the kind of thing which would actually incite World War Three, so who's the real Nuclear Hitler?

Yeah I distinctively recall the episode where he wanted to give a nuke stocking stuffer to everyone east of the Alps, just like the media said Trump wanted to give nukes to Japan.

[The Conservative]

No but they have been using other means to achieve what they want.

Cold War tactics... nothing new.

I think you guys aren't seeing the possibility of a big picture here. But isn't the US is supposed to keep Russia and China in check, Russia is supposed to keep US and China in check, China is supposed to keep Russia and US in check. But Trump might just not keep Russin in check but focus on China. Why because of jobs and the fact that Putin is basically an old business buddy.

No, that's the place of the UN, which is failing miserably. If the US is meant to do as you stated, keeping China and Russia in check, then we need to be given "World Police" protection status, otherwise the world needs to learn how to fend for itself.

The time where the world saw the US as a protector is long gone, now they see us as a bully for the same tactics that at one time kept them safe... so if the US is to be "the world police", it needs to be given the right to be, otherwise the UN steps in and does its job... which is very unlikely to happen in any situation.

[StCapps]

What exactly did he mean when he said he'd blow the shit out of the ME?

This one is easy, it means he wants to defeat ISIS and sound as tough as possible while taking such a position. You think Trump actually meant he wants to nuke the Middle East? Trump just wanted to be tough on terror to win votes, he doesn't want to turn the Middle East into glass, get real lady. Trump was talking about bombing the hell out of ISIS, not the Middle East in general either, so simmer down panic monkey. Trump is not as scary as you are envisioning.

All politicians lie and embellish, Trump is no different. You can quit fronting like we should take politicians at their word because if they happen to be Donald Trump saying outrageous things then the outrageous statements of politicians are somehow believable in that context. If these politicians aren't Trump, then I can easily disregard many of their wacky statements as simply trying to win votes by saying what others want to hear, but if it is Donald Trump, then every statement he makes must be 100% serious, he can't be speaking figuratively, or embellishing for dramatic effect in any way. That logic does not pass the smell test.

[Fish_Happens]

just spotted this rather incredible picture. Whatever your take on the man, this is some top notch imagery. Turbulence ahead motherfuckers.

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[Cid]

What exactly did he mean when he said he'd blow the shit out of the ME?

This one is easy, it means he wants to defeat ISIS and sound as tough as possible while taking such a position. You think Trump actually meant he wants to nuke the Middle East? Trump just wanted to be tough on terror to win votes, he doesn't want to turn the Middle East into glass, get real lady. Trump was talking about bombing the hell out of ISIS, not the Middle East in general either, so simmer down panic monkey. Trump is not as scary as you are envisioning.

All politicians lie and embellish, Trump is no different. You can quit fronting like we should take politicians at their word because if they happen to be Donald Trump saying outrageous things then the outrageous statements of politicians are somehow believable in that context. If these politicians aren't Trump, then I can easily disregard many of their wacky statements as simply trying to win votes by saying what others want to hear, but if it is Donald Trump, then every statement he makes must be 100% serious, he can't be speaking figuratively, or embellishing for dramatic effect in any way. That logic does not pass the smell test.

More horseshit. He's serious when you want him to be and he's not serious when you want him to be. It'll be a 100 ft wall, there'll be no wall, he's going to kick them out, he's not going to kick them out.

And Kath and numerous others have gotten shit for assuming it was bluster. You can't blast skeptics and believers alike ad nauseam.

[StCapps]

Kath and numerous others have gotten shit for assuming it was bluster.

In that case, she is a pussy who can't take being criticized for assuming it's bluster. No matter how many "numerous others" give me shit for assuming that, I don't flinch and change my mind. Anyone who thinks that Trump is so different from every other politician to come along that you can actually believe everything he says, they are wishful thinkers. Kath should stick to her guns on the bluster tip, lest she look like a fool for flip flopping when she was right in the first place.

[K@th]

[ This one is easy, it means he wants to defeat ISIS and sound as tough as possible while taking such a position. You think Trump actually meant he wants to nuke the Middle East? .

He knows more than the generals about ISIS, believe me.

[StCapps]

He knows more than the generals about ISIS, believe me.

Hyperbole for dramatic effect. It doesn't mean he will never listen to generals because he views himself as some know-it-all who doesn't need their advice, the way some people think he meant it, because the want to believe the worst about him. How can you take that statement seriously, in anyway shape or form? Get real.

[K@th]

Kath should stick to her guns on the bluster tip, lest she look like a fool for flip flopping when she was right in the first place.

Gotcha, so believe nothing he says. Sounds good to me. I'm just going after those who fell in love with Trump and all he said he'd do. Now they are saying, "Well, he was never going to do those things, but his rhetoric was way better than normal rhetoric."

So if nobody voted for him because he was going to defeat ISIS, bring jobs back, build a YUGE wall and kick out all the Muslims, why, exactly, did they vote for him?

[K@th]

Hyperbole for dramatic effect.

Should we call him President Hyperbole or President Cry Baby?