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ssu
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by ssu » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:08 am
Speaker to Animals wrote:This is one of Trump's huge weak spots. The cops are out of control in general. What really sucks is that it only gets on the news when they kill a black dude.
The most simple way would be to promote and emphasize professionalism in the police force. It's simply extremely inept policework to be triggerhappy with your sidearm.
But perhaps even that would look like giving credibility to the democrats BLM or whatever... and somehow not being supportive of the police.
But it's the typical syndrome for American politics: supporting something has to totally blind without any degree of criticism, as somehow being critical would prove the point of those who you disagree with.
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nmoore63
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by nmoore63 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:10 am
ssu wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:This is one of Trump's huge weak spots. The cops are out of control in general. What really sucks is that it only gets on the news when they kill a black dude.
The most simple way would be to promote and emphasize professionalism in the police force. It's simply extremely inept policework to be triggerhappy with your sidearm.
But perhaps even that would look like giving credibility to the democrats BLM or whatever... and somehow not being supportive of the police.
But it's the typical syndrome for American politics: supporting something has to totally blind without any degree of criticism, as somehow being critical would prove the point of those who you disagree with.
I remain hopeful that putting cameras on all officers will help with this problem.
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by ssu » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:19 am
nmoore63 wrote:I remain hopeful that putting cameras on all officers will help with this problem.
I don't think that's going to cut it. It's more of a cultural thing: if you can promote professionalism in a organization, that typically motivates people a lot more than something coming from the outside.
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by Fife » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:20 am
Eliminating qualified immunity would promote professionalism.
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by C-Mag » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:25 am
nmoore63 wrote:ssu wrote:Speaker to Animals wrote:This is one of Trump's huge weak spots. The cops are out of control in general. What really sucks is that it only gets on the news when they kill a black dude.
The most simple way would be to promote and emphasize professionalism in the police force. It's simply extremely inept policework to be triggerhappy with your sidearm.
But perhaps even that would look like giving credibility to the democrats BLM or whatever... and somehow not being supportive of the police.
But it's the typical syndrome for American politics: supporting something has to totally blind without any degree of criticism, as somehow being critical would prove the point of those who you disagree with.
I remain hopeful that putting cameras on all officers will help with this problem.
It won't help enough to make a difference........... unfortunately. The issue is that Cops are doing what they are trained to do within our current laws and rules of engagement............. That's what should scare us all. Look no further than the Vegas hallway shooting.
We need a rework of LEO training top to bottom, we have to change laws, we have to change police culture. Right now, all Police have to do is convince a jury or superiors that there was a reason why the Cop could fear for their lives and they can use deadly force.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:32 am
C-Mag wrote:nmoore63 wrote:ssu wrote:
The most simple way would be to promote and emphasize professionalism in the police force. It's simply extremely inept policework to be triggerhappy with your sidearm.
But perhaps even that would look like giving credibility to the democrats BLM or whatever... and somehow not being supportive of the police.
But it's the typical syndrome for American politics: supporting something has to totally blind without any degree of criticism, as somehow being critical would prove the point of those who you disagree with.
I remain hopeful that putting cameras on all officers will help with this problem.
It won't help enough to make a difference........... unfortunately. The issue is that Cops are doing what they are trained to do within our current laws and rules of engagement............. That's what should scare us all. Look no further than the Vegas hallway shooting.
We need a rework of LEO training top to bottom, we have to change laws, we have to change police culture. Right now, all Police have to do is convince a jury or superiors that there was a reason why the Cop could fear for their lives and they can use deadly force.
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by Penner » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:39 am
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Zero wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Welp, that was fun.
Bye.
Que?
Markets just breached the 200ma. The next recession has begun.
His entire narrative is imploding around him.
So it's happening?
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Speaker to Animals
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by Speaker to Animals » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:48 am
Fife wrote:Eliminating qualified immunity would promote professionalism.
This.
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by SuburbanFarmer » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:57 am
Penner wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:Zero wrote:
Que?
Markets just breached the 200ma. The next recession has begun.
His entire narrative is imploding around him.
So it's happening?
It is.
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by Penner » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:13 am
GrumpyCatFace wrote:Penner wrote:GrumpyCatFace wrote:
Markets just breached the 200ma. The next recession has begun.
His entire narrative is imploding around him.
So it's happening?
It is.
So are we expecting something like the Great Depression level or just maybe a swing back? Because honestly all of this market dropping is being blamed on Trump's "trade war" announcement and China firing back.