Poking the Bear Again
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Re: Poking the Bear Again
Well gee, I’d sure love to see my family die over a port in Ukraine and Biden’s corrupt ass taking money from them.
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I think Washington suffers from the same delusions of control, which is what makes a war plausibleHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:17 am
Either way, I am in to rolling some boats into the Black Sea - but I think the Russians will back down before going full black-glass. This is just an opinion, no evidence whatsoever to support it.
Call it an article of faith.
nobody starts a war like this on purpose, whenever it comes, it will be by brinkmanship & miscalculation
whether this is the event that incites that war, I'm not expecting that
but each you time you go to this well, it becomes plausible
I certainly don't have any faith in the Biden Administration, I think they are literally fucking crazy
I have more faith in Putin, but he is sending very clear strategic warning at the brink of war, right now
the Russians are not going to back down because they are backs against the wall
America is the party who has to back down to avoid war
the question then becomes, how delusional is the imperial hubris in Washington ?
the reason I am not expecting war, is that I calculate that the Biden Administration is bluffing and will back down
at the same time, this Administration is so weak that it fills them with a desperation to look tough
the Administration has the wagons circled, they are paranoid
so that's how miscalculation happens
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To be perfectly honest, I'm just glad it isn't my decision to make - because I am not crazy and don't think I have the stomach for nuclear brinkmanship.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:23 amI think Washington suffers from the same delusions of control, which is what makes a war plausibleHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:17 am
Either way, I am in to rolling some boats into the Black Sea - but I think the Russians will back down before going full black-glass. This is just an opinion, no evidence whatsoever to support it.
Call it an article of faith.
nobody starts a war like this on purpose, whenever it comes, it will be by brinkmanship & miscalculation
whether this is the event that incites that war, I'm not expecting that
but each you time you go to this well, it becomes plausible
I certainly don't have any faith in the Biden Administration, I think they are literally fucking crazy
I have more faith in Putin, but he is sending very clear strategic warning at the brink of war, right now
the Russians are not going to back down because they are backs against the wall
America is the party who has to back down to avoid war
the question then becomes, how delusional is the imperial hubris in Washington ?
At the same time, I don't think doing nothing is really an option either.
We can probably putter around in the Black Sea for a minute - just to say 'fuck around and find out.' I'm assuming that is the whole point of this.
Of course, given Biden's FDR delusions, maybe he has gone wobbly in the brain and is trying to start WWIII.
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there is an agreement on the table right now, the Minsk AgreementHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:09 amTo be perfectly honest, I'm just glad it isn't my decision to make - because I am not crazy and don't think I have the stomach for nuclear brinkmanship.Smitty-48 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:23 amI think Washington suffers from the same delusions of control, which is what makes a war plausibleHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:17 am
Either way, I am in to rolling some boats into the Black Sea - but I think the Russians will back down before going full black-glass. This is just an opinion, no evidence whatsoever to support it.
Call it an article of faith.
nobody starts a war like this on purpose, whenever it comes, it will be by brinkmanship & miscalculation
whether this is the event that incites that war, I'm not expecting that
but each you time you go to this well, it becomes plausible
I certainly don't have any faith in the Biden Administration, I think they are literally fucking crazy
I have more faith in Putin, but he is sending very clear strategic warning at the brink of war, right now
the Russians are not going to back down because they are backs against the wall
America is the party who has to back down to avoid war
the question then becomes, how delusional is the imperial hubris in Washington ?
At the same time, I don't think doing nothing is really an option either.
We can probably putter around in the Black Sea for a minute - just to say 'fuck around and find out.' I'm assuming that is the whole point of this.
Of course, given Biden's FDR delusions, maybe he has gone wobbly in the brain and is trying to start WWIII.
the agreement is that the status quo should be maintained
so it is actually the Biden Administration which is actively stirring this up
Ukraine doesn't even want to fight, they are rightly terrified of the Russians
but their financial support from Washington is being leveraged to make them fight
Obama started this, nobody else but Obama went on the offensive in Ukraine, against the advice of Europe
now all of Obama's people are back at it again, except without Obama to direct the operation
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that is the position of the French & Germans
they already hashed out an agreement with the Russians to stabilize the situation
now the Biden Administration is violating the terms of that agreement, Washington is on the offensive here
see, Ukraine was Obama's big mistake, his big miscalculation, Susan Rice & Co played with fire and got burned
Trump didn't care, it wasn't his mistake, wasn't his issue, he was happy with the Minsk Agreement status quo
but now Susan Rice & Co are back, trying to reverse their previous mistake by doubling down
don't be naive in thinking that the Obamacons are satisfied with the status quo, they are not
this is an ongoing regime change operation, they are trying to bring Putin down
this is why Belarus is more central than Ukraine
the Obamacon's method is Velvet Revolution
they flip the Russian proxies one at a time, in Georgia, in Ukraine, in Armenia, in Belarus, etcetera
they already flipped Ukraine, next up on the list is Belarus
the final Velvet Revolution is scheduled to be in Moscow at some point, ringed around the Kremlin
they already hashed out an agreement with the Russians to stabilize the situation
now the Biden Administration is violating the terms of that agreement, Washington is on the offensive here
see, Ukraine was Obama's big mistake, his big miscalculation, Susan Rice & Co played with fire and got burned
Trump didn't care, it wasn't his mistake, wasn't his issue, he was happy with the Minsk Agreement status quo
but now Susan Rice & Co are back, trying to reverse their previous mistake by doubling down
don't be naive in thinking that the Obamacons are satisfied with the status quo, they are not
this is an ongoing regime change operation, they are trying to bring Putin down
this is why Belarus is more central than Ukraine
the Obamacon's method is Velvet Revolution
they flip the Russian proxies one at a time, in Georgia, in Ukraine, in Armenia, in Belarus, etcetera
they already flipped Ukraine, next up on the list is Belarus
the final Velvet Revolution is scheduled to be in Moscow at some point, ringed around the Kremlin
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Obviously, Putin is happy with the status quo (a term I am tempted to put in scare quotes - but I won't, 'cause I'm classy like that).
The OSCE can kiss my non-binding ass. The Obamacon strategy doesn't bother me.
The OSCE can kiss my non-binding ass. The Obamacon strategy doesn't bother me.
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there are two other wildcard third parties in play, outside of the control of Washington, but both in NATO
one is Poland, who are actively trying to effect a regime change in Belarus by Velvet Revolution
the other is the Turks, who are actively trying to take the South Caucasus from Russia
what happened in Nagorno-Karaback recently was that Armenia had a Velvet Revolution against Putin
then Erdogan launched an attack on the Russians by way of Turkey's proxy Azerbaijan
one is Poland, who are actively trying to effect a regime change in Belarus by Velvet Revolution
the other is the Turks, who are actively trying to take the South Caucasus from Russia
what happened in Nagorno-Karaback recently was that Armenia had a Velvet Revolution against Putin
then Erdogan launched an attack on the Russians by way of Turkey's proxy Azerbaijan
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welcome to the Neoconservative camp, congratulations, you are now a Cold WarriorHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:59 am
The OSCE can kiss my non-binding ass. The Obamacon strategy doesn't bother me.
as I an old school Cold Warrior myself, I simply caution against half measures
if you are going to do this, it has to be as Dutch Reagan did it in 1981, no ambiguity, full court press
Eagle with thunderbolts in talons grasped, no wriggle room for miscalculation on the Russians part
warm it all up, start deploying it to theatre en masse
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S'good advice.
Half-measures are just so tempting, though. Like having your cake and eating it.
But, again, for some reason I can't fathom, DC doesn't come to me for council on foreign policy.
Half-measures are just so tempting, though. Like having your cake and eating it.
But, again, for some reason I can't fathom, DC doesn't come to me for council on foreign policy.
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Her needs America so they won't just take his shit away like in some pussy non gun totting countries can happen.
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remember it is the Balance of TerrorHanarchy Montanarchy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:19 amS'good advice.
Half-measures are just so tempting, though. Like having your cake and eating it.
But, again, for some reason I can't fathom, DC doesn't come to me for council on foreign policy.
you don't want to take the tiger by the tail
if you are going to confront the Kremlin, you have to make sure there is no slack in that
the most dangerous thing is to pick a fight which you are not prepared for
if you are going to pick a fight with nuclear weapons, you need to go all the way, overwhelming superioty
peace through strength
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