Current US Military

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Re: Current US Military

Post by DrYouth » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:24 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:25 am
provide an example of an Hegenomy rising from its own ashes, I can't think of one
History does not always need to repeat itself.

We have never been at this place in history before.

We are a hyperlinked global society now.... this was never true before.

A collapse to a global dark age is unlikely -

We are nodes in Indras Net now...

If one node goes dark... other nodes will rise to take their place.

This forum could easily contain english speaking Indians and Chinese -
It already has Brits, Canadians and Americans... and god knows who else is lurking about....

Some of you are prolly Russian Bots.

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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:27 am

DrYouth wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:24 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:25 am
provide an example of an Hegenomy rising from its own ashes, I can't think of one
History does not always need to repeat itself.

We have never been at this place in history before.

We are a hyperlinked global society now.... this was never true before.

A collapse to a global dark age is unlikely -

We are nodes in Indras Net now...

If one node goes dark... other nodes will rise to take their place.

This forum could easily contain english speaking Indians and Chinese -
It already has Brits, Canadians and Americans... and god knows who else is lurking about....

Some of you are prolly Russian Bots.

>looks meaningfully at Martin<
you simply do not understand the terms of the conversation

you don't know what an Hegenomy is, you don't have the reference to understand what you are taking about
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Re: Current US Military

Post by DrYouth » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:27 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:55 am
bear in mind, an Hegenom is always a seapower

Hegenomy flows from the sea, so land powers have never been Hegemons
By this definition China was never a superpower.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by DrYouth » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:28 am

Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:27 am
you don't have the reference to understand what you are taking about
OK Karen
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:30 am

DrYouth wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:28 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:27 am
you don't have the reference to understand what you are taking about
OK Karen
OK spineless pussy whipped jellyfish / shrugs
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:32 am

DrYouth wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:27 am
Smitty-48 wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:55 am
bear in mind, an Hegenom is always a seapower

Hegenomy flows from the sea, so land powers have never been Hegemons
By this definition China was never a superpower.
China was never able to impose their culture

they sailed all over the world, but their culture was never adopted, so their attempt at Hegenomy failed
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:35 am

first step to understanding Hegemony is to put land powers aside, they are not in the running

Britain ruled the world with only 200,000 troops in the British Army,

and 6,000 British ruled over 100,000,000 Indians

Hegemomy is seapower

second thing to understand is that it is not about military force, it is the imposition of your trade & culture
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:41 am

America did not become the Hegemon by defeating Germany

America became the Hegemon by defeating Japan

Germany could not break the blockade in the North Sea, so was not a seapower in the end

America did not even become the Hegemon by military force, it was trade & culture

the British Empire committed suicide, then America moved into the power vacuum left in the Far East
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Re: Current US Military

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:43 am

Xenophon wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:03 am
SuburbanFarmer wrote:
Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:01 am
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Wed Mar 24, 2021 9:53 am


Egypt was never an Hegemony

Hegenomy is a Western construct in of itself, from the Greeks

Egypt was part of the Greco-Roman hegenomies
Now that’s just silliness. Egypt is thousands of years older than the Greeks. They built pyramids while Greeks were scratching on cave walls.

They were the original superpower.
Until the Sea Peoples came.
That’s the ‘rising from the ashes’ that I’m referring to. Whether the Bronze Age Collapse was simply an invasion, or a true Collapse, Egypt came back to dominate the known world afterwards - a hegemon.
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Re: Current US Military

Post by Smitty-48 » Wed Mar 24, 2021 10:48 am

there is no such thing as an Hegemon until the Ancient Greeks

an Hegnomy was control of the western Mediterranean by trade & culture

the Ancient Egyptians were never that, their territory hugged the Nile & Red Sea
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