Tax Plan For Aristocracy

[Martin Hash]

Dude, I won a long time ago. I'm rich.

That doesn't make your argument any better.
/shurgs

You get props for debating the OP. You aren't prevaricating about preferring an aristocracy. And given your lack of respect for liberty, you actually handled your end of the argument quite effectively. I can say you and I were both right considering our positions.

[StCapps]

You get props for debating the OP. You aren't prevaricating about preferring an aristocracy. And given your lack of respect for liberty, you actually handled your end of the argument quite effectively. I can say you and I were both right considering our positions.

I have a great respect for liberty, not hating on the aristocracy unnecessarily doesn't preclude that, your tax proposal on the other hand, not so much respect for liberty going on there.
/shrugs

You think an aristocracy is diametrically opposed to liberty, but that's a bunch of nonsense, demonizing a neutral term to mean only the negative. There are good aristocracies and bad aristocracies, and lots of different kinds of different aristocracies in between, no need to hate on them all.

[Martin Hash]

You get props for debating the OP. You aren't prevaricating about preferring an aristocracy. And given your lack of respect for liberty, you actually handled your end of the argument quite effectively. I can say you and I were both right considering our positions.

I have a great respect for liberty, not hating on the aristocracy unnecessarily doesn't preclude that, your tax proposal on the other hand, not so much respect for liberty going on there.
/shrugs

Most-Liberty-to-Most-People requires the abolishment of the aristocracy. Your Most-Liberty-to-Whoever-Gets-There-First attitude is still liberty-centric, just way to the right of me.

[StCapps]

Most-Liberty-to-Most-People requires the abolishment of the aristocracy requires the abolishment of the aristocracy.

Not possible to abolish the aristocracy, especially via inheritance taxes. The best way to get the most liberty to the most people, is having the aristocracy being the key promoters of liberty, and them defending it from the mob rule which devolves into Robin Hood Economics. When America had it's great reform periods, the aristocracy teamed up with other classes to reduce corruption and promote liberty, it wasn't when the poor overthrew the rich and took their shit that liberty ensued.

Your Most-Liberty-to-Whoever-Gets-There-First is still liberty-centric, just way to the right of me.

Strawman.

[Martin Hash]

On a side note, I was using this thread to refine a section in my book. I used to say "democracy is liberty's greatest threat," but after this exchange, I've changed that to "aristocracy is liberty's greatest threat" because people will use democracy to turn to socialism. Very valuable insight gained here.

[StCapps]

On a side note, I was using this thread to refine a section in my book. I used to say "democracy is liberty's greatest threat," but after this exchange, I've changed that to "aristocracy is liberty's greatest threat" because people will use democracy to turn to socialism. Very valuable insight gained here.

Democracy is the greatest threat to liberty, you had it right the first time.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

On a side note, I was using this thread to refine a section in my book. I used to say "democracy is liberty's greatest threat," but after this exchange, I've changed that to "aristocracy is liberty's greatest threat" because people will use democracy to turn to socialism. Very valuable insight gained here.

How about: Liberty walks a tightrope between the tantamount threats of aristocracy and democracy.

[Martin Hash]

On a side note, I was using this thread to refine a section in my book. I used to say "democracy is liberty's greatest threat," but after this exchange, I've changed that to "aristocracy is liberty's greatest threat" because people will use democracy to turn to socialism. Very valuable insight gained here.

Democracy is the greatest threat to liberty, you had it right the first time.

I've gone with that for a couple years but what causes people to want socialism? People vote in their own best interests: if the liberty paradigm is failing them because The Rich have hogged all the opportunity, they indeed would see an increase in freedom and well-being with socialism. The Rich don't care, they'll have liberty no matter what. (Another thing I learned in this forum, money beats the shit out of accomplishment.)

[Martin Hash]

On a side note, I was using this thread to refine a section in my book. I used to say "democracy is liberty's greatest threat," but after this exchange, I've changed that to "aristocracy is liberty's greatest threat" because people will use democracy to turn to socialism. Very valuable insight gained here.

How about: Liberty walks a tightrope between the tantamount threats of aristocracy and democracy.

Nice, but it's "aristocracy and collectivism."

[MilSpecs]

You realize that lower and middle class people pass inheritances down to their children as well, right? An inheritance tax isn't even just a tax on the rich, it's a tax on everyone. It's anti-family, it's anti-freedom, and it doesn't help keep a meritocracy strong either, it's all downside, no upside in sight.

There's an $11 million exemption. To say that a federal estate tax is in any way going to affect middle class people is not within the realm of reality. Lower economic class people, by definition, have little or no assets to leave to anyone.