DACA

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Not to mention - going from a nation where the average income is $3769 to a one where the average income is $843 a month. Being extremely fluent in two languages. Having personal, family, and business contacts in two neighboring nations.

It's almost like we're creating an army of Hernán Cortés' and sending them back into Aztlán. Think of the good they could do for their birth nation. Think of the advantages and experiences they could bring back with them.

Or, as AP said, think of the ease with which they could gain US citizenship should they decide to pursue that.

People act like sending a Mexican back to Mexico (or a Haitian to Haiti, or an Irishman to Ireland) is akin to locking them in a cage with starved wolves. It's ridiculous. The entire political left is built upon loathing all things America and American (or as they disparagingly call it, 'MURICA), but as soon as some foreigner *might* get deported suddenly America is the lone safe haven amidst a sea of death. These panic-mongerers can't even keep their own narrative straight.

Must be why history's forced re-locations are viewed so favorably. Ingrates ought to be lining up for their free tickets.

At what point will you finally admit that these are criminals stealing from the American people?

At what point do you admit inherited guilt is an immoral concept?

[MilSpecs]

Some of those kids didn't even know they weren't born here.

Kids that are born here aren't the issue, it is the kids that were dragged across the border with their parents are the issue.

Of course, I find this ironic... we are told the kids aren't at fault for the errors of their parents, but I'm held accountable for racism for what my great, great, (great?) grandfather did... seriously?

None of us are responsible for the sins of our fathers, but the buck still stops here.

[The Conservative]

Not to mention - going from a nation where the average income is $3769 to a one where the average income is $843 a month. Being extremely fluent in two languages. Having personal, family, and business contacts in two neighboring nations.

It's almost like we're creating an army of Hernán Cortés' and sending them back into Aztlán. Think of the good they could do for their birth nation. Think of the advantages and experiences they could bring back with them.

Or, as AP said, think of the ease with which they could gain US citizenship should they decide to pursue that.

People act like sending a Mexican back to Mexico (or a Haitian to Haiti, or an Irishman to Ireland) is akin to locking them in a cage with starved wolves. It's ridiculous. The entire political left is built upon loathing all things America and American (or as they disparagingly call it, 'MURICA), but as soon as some foreigner *might* get deported suddenly America is the lone safe haven amidst a sea of death. These panic-mongerers can't even keep their own narrative straight.

Must be why history's forced re-locations are viewed so favorably. Ingrates ought to be lining up for their free tickets.

DACA is for all intended purposes a forced migration, that is what the kids are forced migrated out of their country to the US. Time to send them and their family back for being cruel to the kids.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

DACA is for all intended purposes a forced migration, that is what the kids are forced migrated out of their country to the US. Time to send them and their family back for being cruel to the kids.

We're going with wrong+wrong=right then?

[DBTrek]

DACA is for all intended purposes a forced migration, that is what the kids are forced migrated out of their country to the US. Time to send them and their family back for being cruel to the kids.

We're going with wrong+wrong=right then?

Once again the entire argument is consistently framed from DACA point-of-view, never from the American point of view.
Any of you bleeding hearts ever consider why that is?
Ever ask yourself "Why do I always adopt the non-American viewpoint, and argue merits from that side?"

I suspect not.

I would, however, submit that that forced migration to America (via their illegal parents)was wrong for the DACA kids, and returning non-citizens to their homeland is right for the citizens of the host nation and those who took the pains to immigrate legally.
Thus we're actually looking at wrong + right = rightish.

But you guys never worry about the citizens of America, nor the immigrants who undertook the trials required for legal citizenship, do you?
Nope.
They're just bit players.
Non-entities.

[The Conservative]

DACA is for all intended purposes a forced migration, that is what the kids are forced migrated out of their country to the US. Time to send them and their family back for being cruel to the kids.

We're going with wrong+wrong=right then?

If you can't explain to me why we should tolerate trespassers on our own property, then you have no reason to accept illegal aliens into the country as a whole.

[The Conservative]

Some of those kids didn't even know they weren't born here.

Kids that are born here aren't the issue, it is the kids that were dragged across the border with their parents are the issue.

Of course, I find this ironic... we are told the kids aren't at fault for the errors of their parents, but I'm held accountable for racism for what my great, great, (great?) grandfather did... seriously?

None of us are responsible for the sins of our fathers, but the buck still stops here.

Then why do we give the this DACA group a free pass, while because I'm white, I am racist because my ancestors did something that I had no control over? Just curious... because that is what it seems the Democrat Party is getting at right now.

[ssu]

If people want to change the present, then rewrite the existing laws. Otherwise, abide them. DREAM Act hasn't passed.

The worse possible answer here is to "leave things as they are" or worse, "don't implement the law" and "let them just be". Well, that would lead them in the limbo they are.

And lets not forget that DACA, the policy to "receive a renewable two-year period of deferred action from deportation and eligibility for a work permit", isn't a solution either.

[MilSpecs]

Once again the entire argument is consistently framed from DACA point-of-view, never from the American point of view.
Any of you bleeding hearts ever consider why that is?
Ever ask yourself "Why do I always adopt the non-American viewpoint, and argue merits from that side?"

I suspect not.

I would, however, submit that that forced migration to America (via their illegal parents)was wrong for the DACA kids, and returning non-citizens to their homeland is right for the citizens of the host nation and those who took the pains to immigrate legally.
Thus we're actually looking at wrong + right = rightish.

But you guys never worry about the citizens of America, nor the immigrants who undertook the trials required for legal citizenship, do you?

I take the POV of a adult when it comes to kids. You don't take your anger, however righteous, out on kids. Plug the hole and deal with the kids already here like civilized human beings.

[clubgop]

What I replied is that this fucking shitshow is very common ALL AROUND the World. That applying the law is seen by leftists as an outrage.

There we go, if only the rest of the leftist hacks of this board could admit that were open borders like the rest of them.