Trump takes the fight to ISIS

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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:15 am

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Heraclius wrote: Personally I see the draft as a useless endeavor. Sure, I don't see any problem with having women register for the draft, but the act in itself is purely symbolic. We've already experienced the political suicide of a draft in a situation where the US can be seen as the aggressor. Likewise I doubt that people will put any weight on being registered for the draft. I don't think any 18-25 year old considered being registered for Selective Service to be anything more than extra paperwork in order to get access to financial aid in this generation. We're just too far separated from the damage of war in order to have it weigh deeply on the public conscience.
The draft would not be useless, in fact it may be the only thing that could wake up Americans and get them concerned about foreign policy in a real way. Further, there are a great many benefits to the draft beyond waging war.
I think it would only serve to piss people off at the government, but wouldn't necessarily lead to any sort of change. We'd spend years quibbling over exemptions, and side-rules, while the MIC happily rolled along over third-world dirt farmers.
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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by C-Mag » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:22 am

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C-Mag wrote:
Heraclius wrote: Personally I see the draft as a useless endeavor. Sure, I don't see any problem with having women register for the draft, but the act in itself is purely symbolic. We've already experienced the political suicide of a draft in a situation where the US can be seen as the aggressor. Likewise I doubt that people will put any weight on being registered for the draft. I don't think any 18-25 year old considered being registered for Selective Service to be anything more than extra paperwork in order to get access to financial aid in this generation. We're just too far separated from the damage of war in order to have it weigh deeply on the public conscience.
The draft would not be useless, in fact it may be the only thing that could wake up Americans and get them concerned about foreign policy in a real way. Further, there are a great many benefits to the draft beyond waging war.
I think it would only serve to piss people off at the government, but wouldn't necessarily lead to any sort of change. We'd spend years quibbling over exemptions, and side-rules, while the MIC happily rolled along over third-world dirt farmers.
No doubt the Snowflakes would freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek out. It would be epic.
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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:24 am

C-Mag wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
The draft would not be useless, in fact it may be the only thing that could wake up Americans and get them concerned about foreign policy in a real way. Further, there are a great many benefits to the draft beyond waging war.
I think it would only serve to piss people off at the government, but wouldn't necessarily lead to any sort of change. We'd spend years quibbling over exemptions, and side-rules, while the MIC happily rolled along over third-world dirt farmers.
No doubt the Snowflakes would freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek out. It would be epic.
It's fun to dream. I'd also like the government to establish a lunar colony, and massively increase NASA's budget. Once that's done, we could 'accidentally' drop a rock on NYC.
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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by The Conservative » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:26 am

Martin Hash wrote:I think everyone should be forced to get a doctorate before they can vote.
In what?

Also, some of the smartest people out there have no common sense, and education doesn't mean you are qualified to do really anything except that you have shown proficiency in said degree.
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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by nmoore63 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:35 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:Shots fired:

SAD!

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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:38 am

nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Shots fired:

SAD!

The sad truth.

If you want to keep your wife on the pedestal, then at least have the decency to ensure she does not vote.

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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by nmoore63 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:43 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: SAD!

The sad truth.

If you want to keep your wife on the pedestal, then at least have the decency to ensure she does not vote.
Certainly.

Only people with at least as much wealth as me should be allowed to vote.

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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:45 am

nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
nmoore63 wrote: SAD!

The sad truth.

If you want to keep your wife on the pedestal, then at least have the decency to ensure she does not vote.
Certainly.

Only people with at least as much wealth as me should be allowed to vote.

How about this: in principle, people ought only be able to vote on matters in which they both have a stake and are willing to sacrifice; i.e. nobody who is exempt from getting press-ganged into cannon fodder ought to be able to vote to order other people to be pressed-ganged into cannon fodder. Women don't have any business voting until they have to pay for the consequences of their votes.

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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by nmoore63 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:47 am

Speaker to Animals wrote:
How about this: in principle, people ought only be able to vote on matters in which they both have a stake and are willing to sacrifice; i.e. nobody who is exempt from getting press-ganged into cannon fodder ought to be able to vote to order other people to be pressed-ganged into cannon fodder. Women don't have any business voting until they have to pay for the consequences of their votes.
And only women should be allowed to vote on abortion.

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Re: Trump takes the fight to ISIS

Post by Speaker to Animals » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:48 am

nmoore63 wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:
How about this: in principle, people ought only be able to vote on matters in which they both have a stake and are willing to sacrifice; i.e. nobody who is exempt from getting press-ganged into cannon fodder ought to be able to vote to order other people to be pressed-ganged into cannon fodder. Women don't have any business voting until they have to pay for the consequences of their votes.
And only women should be allowed to vote on abortion.

Well, if you want to play that game, then theoretically only unborn babies should be able to vote on abortion, since they are the ones losing their lives. But they can't, so I think we probably should assume that, once they mature to the age of reason, they would vote FUCK NO to being aborted.

That's actually the worst possible quip you could make and is exactly the problem with women voting. They don't largely pay any of the consequences for their votes. They vote to extract wealth from men. They vote to send men to die in useless wars. Women as a group are a net loss to the tax coffers of this country because of this and the endless wars fomented by the "strong women" like Hillary Clinton don't help either.

Women and their beta allies assume that because something affects women it's the same as their having a real stake in the vote. That's not correct. What we mean by this is that the person should actually have to pay the costs of their vote, not receive the benefit.
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