We Need To Export MAGA to Canada.

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Post by C-Mag » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:31 am

Hey you Cannucks, is " Canadian Values " your MAGA Slogan ?
http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-n ... rants-poll
The findings of the survey, carried by the CROP polling for the French-language service of the CBC, indicate that despite criticism from the media and within political circles, the controversial position taken by Conservative leadership candidate Kellie Leitch that immigrants be tested for an appreciation of “Canadian” values has traction with 74 per cent of Canadians. Inside Quebec, support for testing immigrants stood at 75 per cent.
What if any similarities are there with Kellie Leitch and President Trump ?
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Post by doc_loliday » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:22 pm

StCapps wrote:Yeah up here most new immigrants vote Conservative. The Canadian born are more prone to voting Liberal or NDP. It's the opposite of the American dynamic. Bring on the well screened, well off immigrants, by the shit ton I say, that's how you really MCGA and begin to rollback some of the nanny state bullshit we put up with on the regular.

It's not the immigrants' voting pattern that I'm worried about, but their children's, and especially their grandchildren's. I have a lot of ties with a specific immigrant community and I'm watching this microcosm unfold before my eyes. The first wave that came over is extremely conservative and hardworking. Their kids tend to be too as they are products of their parents, (although you can see some of them breaking this pattern); but mostly its the following generation that seems to breaking away from this. They are being told that they are the most oppressed group the planet has even seen, and they are growing up learning to resent the system. I won't say this is a general pattern for all immigrant groups, because I don't know, but I have been wondering if it is.

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What matters is whether the immigrants kids, kids have a chance of being part of the mainstream culture and sharing in some degree of prosperity. For the most part this has gone reasonably well with most Canadian immigrant waves. One wonders as the suburbs have expanded and some immigrant communities have coalesced in less functional suburban environments whether we might not see some of the problems that Europe has faced....
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:23 pm

It really depends upon whether your nation possesses a sizeable number of neomarxists who control the schools, universities, and natonal media.

Opportunities don't matter one way or another when you have an entire cultural industry geared towards programming the kids into believing they are victims and hating the very people that gave their family a second chance.

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DrYouth wrote:What matters is whether the immigrants kids, kids have a chance of being part of the mainstream culture and sharing in some degree of prosperity. For the most part this has gone reasonably well with most Canadian immigrant waves. One wonders as the suburbs have expanded and some immigrant communities have coalesced in less functional suburban environments whether we might not see some of the problems that Europe has faced....
So is this the Canadian Values stuff Cannucks are saying they favor ?

Equal opportunity – We must strive to ensure that everyone has as much of an equal opportunity to succeed as possible, especially our youth
Hard work – Everyone must work hard and provide for themselves and their families
Helping others – Once people become prosperous, we all are expected to give back to our communities to help others
Generosity – Canada is a place that shows what is possible when hard work and generosity come together
Freedom and tolerance – A Canadian identity that is based on freedom and tolerance to allow each of us the chance to pursue our best lives and to become our best selves
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Post by StCapps » Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:11 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:It really depends upon whether your nation possesses a sizeable number of neomarxists who control the schools, universities, and natonal media.

Opportunities don't matter one way or another when you have an entire cultural industry geared towards programming the kids into believing they are victims and hating the very people that gave their family a second chance.
Too many neo-marxists certainly doesn't help, yet our immigration policy has not suffered the consequences too badly just yet. We do have a merit based system after all, unlike you barbarians.

You could make the argument that our immigration quotas are too high, too many immigrants are concentrating in major cities, and/or that we are talking too many immigrants from certain groups, which makes assimilation more difficult. Yet Canada's immigration woes are nothing compared to America's, especially when it comes to border security, not sharing a huge border with Mexico certainly has it's benefits.
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Post by C-Mag » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:14 pm

C-Mag wrote:
DrYouth wrote:What matters is whether the immigrants kids, kids have a chance of being part of the mainstream culture and sharing in some degree of prosperity. For the most part this has gone reasonably well with most Canadian immigrant waves. One wonders as the suburbs have expanded and some immigrant communities have coalesced in less functional suburban environments whether we might not see some of the problems that Europe has faced....
So is this the Canadian Values stuff Cannucks are saying they favor ?

Equal opportunity – We must strive to ensure that everyone has as much of an equal opportunity to succeed as possible, especially our youth
Hard work – Everyone must work hard and provide for themselves and their families
Helping others – Once people become prosperous, we all are expected to give back to our communities to help others
Generosity – Canada is a place that shows what is possible when hard work and generosity come together
Freedom and tolerance – A Canadian identity that is based on freedom and tolerance to allow each of us the chance to pursue our best lives and to become our best selves
Yoo Hoo, Any Cannuk can feel free to answer.
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Post by DrYouth » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:43 pm

C-Mag wrote:Equal opportunity – We must strive to ensure that everyone has as much of an equal opportunity to succeed as possible, especially our youth
Hard work – Everyone must work hard and provide for themselves and their families
Helping others – Once people become prosperous, we all are expected to give back to our communities to help others
Generosity – Canada is a place that shows what is possible when hard work and generosity come together
Freedom and tolerance – A Canadian identity that is based on freedom and tolerance to allow each of us the chance to pursue our best lives and to become our best selves
I haven't seen any definite list.
I can't see anyone arguing against any of the items on that list.
Pretty sure those aren't much different than what American's might consider to be American values.
Many Canadians consider multi-culturalism to be a Canadian value.
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Post by StCapps » Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:01 pm

DrYouth wrote:Many Canadians consider multi-culturalism to be a Canadian value.
Too many for my tastes, those are Liberal Canadian values, not Canadian values. Some cultures contributed more to this country than others, and multiculturalism denies this in order to add extra emphasis to the importance of other cultures in Canada. Multiculturalism supporters in Canada are basically cultural relativists pretending that all cultures have made equal contributions to Canadian culture, when such a claim is preposterous on it's face, ahistorical liberal bullshit is what multiculturalism is to Canadians in the know. You can celebrate other cultures without downplaying the central role of the British and French on Canadian culture and without actively undermining the ability on new immigrants to assimilate by emphasizing differences from the local culture while downplaying the similarities other cultures have with the local culture.
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