Nevertheless She Persisted, WTF?!

[Fife]

Soft racism.

[jbird4049]

Soft racism.

Fife, would you mind explaining what you mean with "soft racism"?

[clubgop]

What? You pay as much to the state because you like big government. You think that if DC left money on the table, Trenton wouldn't move in to take it? And you wouldn't let them? Please.

MilSpecs and I,(hopefully I'm not putting the wrong words in your mouth) not only accept, but want Federal money going to the more needy. We are all Americans, no matter what anyone might say.

It is just that it is annoying to see that those areas with the greatest need, and therefore the greatest aid, also have the greatest number of those who have contempt for those who take such aid. It's like seeing flood victims being contemptuous of flood victims taking aid. It is so bizarre.

That is exactly how I feel.

It's right up there with people insisting that their Social Security is "money they paid in." Most people get back far more than they paid in, so at some point those people are also taking aid. Even sending your kids to public school is taking aid, unless you pay enough state taxes over your lifetime to cover the per pupil cost for 13 years of your kid's education. And yet again, I really did cover the cost of my kids' education, plus the cost of other kids' college (since I pay out of state tuition for a public college), all voluntarily.

The red states feel they've gotten a raw deal. In some ways that's true. In some ways the blue states have it worse. We would all have it a lot worse without each other.

Except where was the flood? There wasnt one. It was an arbitrary number put out by Washington DC that says "if you cant reach it, you are poor, worthless human being and we have to help you on the most basic level of life." It is very noble of you two to be willing to give the poor serfs that charity. And they should learn to shut up, appreciate it and vote democrat. I'm so glad we had this conversation, you really put these people in their place.

Even sending your kids to public school is taking aid, unless you pay enough state taxes over your lifetime to cover the per pupil cost for 13 years of your kid's education. And yet again, I really did cover the cost of my kids' education, plus the cost of other kids' college (since I pay out of state tuition for a public college), all voluntarily.

Oh yes they should shut up and accept the wonderful public schools you pay for. Even though it is a scam, where it is skimmed off the top to teachers unions then funneled to the democratic party. So good for you that you paid all those taxes not only can you be a smug, holier than thou prick about it, you also can sive a boatload of taxpayer money to your preferred political party in the process.

[clubgop]

Soft racism.

Fife, would you mind explaining what you mean with "soft racism"?

"At least the black and hispanics take the money and vote for us. At least they know how to show appreciation." That is soft racism.

[jbird4049]

MilSpecs and I,(hopefully I'm not putting the wrong words in your mouth) not only accept, but want Federal money going to the more needy. We are all Americans, no matter what anyone might say.

It is just that it is annoying to see that those areas with the greatest need, and therefore the greatest aid, also have the greatest number of those who have contempt for those who take such aid. It's like seeing flood victims being contemptuous of flood victims taking aid. It is so bizarre.

That is exactly how I feel.

It's right up there with people insisting that their Social Security is "money they paid in." Most people get back far more than they paid in, so at some point those people are also taking aid. Even sending your kids to public school is taking aid, unless you pay enough state taxes over your lifetime to cover the per pupil cost for 13 years of your kid's education. And yet again, I really did cover the cost of my kids' education, plus the cost of other kids' college (since I pay out of state tuition for a public college), all voluntarily.



The red states feel they've gotten a raw deal. In some ways that's true. In some ways the blue states have it worse. We would all have it a lot worse without each other.

Except where was the flood? There wasnt one. It was an arbitrary number put out by Washington DC that says "if you cant reach it, you are poor, worthless human being and we have to help you on the most basic level of life." It is very noble of you two to be willing to give the poor serfs that charity. And they should learn to shut up, appreciate it and vote democrat. I'm so glad we had this conversation, you really put these people in their place.

Even sending your kids to public school is taking aid, unless you pay enough state taxes over your lifetime to cover the per pupil cost for 13 years of your kid's education. And yet again, I really did cover the cost of my kids' education, plus the cost of other kids' college (since I pay out of state tuition for a public college), all voluntarily.

Oh yes they should shut up and accept the wonderful public schools you pay for. Even though it is a scam, where it is skimmed off the top to teachers unions then funneled to the democratic party. So good for you that you paid all those taxes not only can you be a smug, holier than thou prick about it, you also can sive a boatload of taxpayer money to your preferred political party in the process.

Soft racism.

Fife, would you mind explaining what you mean with "soft racism"?

"At least the black and hispanics take the money and vote for us. At least they know how to show appreciation." That is soft racism.

Arguing about what is the best use of our money, is different that arguing about who needs, or even deserves, it. It certainly different than arguing over how our society should be arranged.

And again, just about everyone is going to need some aid sometime, even if it is just after a natural disaster. Like if California gets "The Big One", like 1906 again.

Half, or more, of the population that is on some form of assistance is of the pale variety. Even if it was a majority non-white, with the U-6 unemployment rate of just over 9% and a labor participation rate still going down, unless you are advocating real starvation, just how is public aid a scam?

Arguments can be made as how to give aid, but there is not enough private charity to feed the 30 million people without work.

[Fife]

Arguing about what is the best use of our money, is different that arguing about who needs, or even deserves, it.

"Our" money. LMFAO

[jbird4049]

Arguing about what is the best use of our money, is different that arguing about who needs, or even deserves, it.

"Our" money. LMFAO

Ours, as in America's. Unless that's you paying for the latest super carrier, or SNAP, Nuke.

[TheReal_ND]

How many times do I have to reiterate that I work full time in a mill and don't take welfare of any kind? When will this meme die?

[Fife]

Arguing about what is the best use of our money, is different that arguing about who needs, or even deserves, it.

"Our" money. LMFAO

Ours, as in America's. Unless that's you paying for the latest super carrier, or SNAP, Nuke.

"America" has no money.

Zilch. Nada.

[Speaker to Animals]

It's all "our" money, by which I mean my money, so hand over your fair share.