North Korea News

[Okeefenokee]

No button doing that on my iPhone. Just volume, Home, and power.

Dude, the Bixby button is like the goto statement of smart phones. It's the most retarded thing I have ever seen in mobile devices, and that's saying a lot.

I wasn't joking earlier. I literally had Justin Bieber blaring out from crotch because the button accidentally got pushed, and the Bixby button overrides the lock screen to bring up a huge page full of adverts and videos and bullshit like that.

Samsung wanted a personalized assistant like Siri is for apple. That's all it is. They think they have to be like apple.

Remember fifteen years ago when people would think you're crazy for saying someone should make a cell plan that doesn't charge by the minute? Hopefully it doesn't take fifteen years for tech companies to fix the shit they all seem to think everyone has to do.

Like preloading phones with tons of junk apps that can't be removed.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Didn't the Russians and Chinese get on America's side after 9/11? You don't think the would countenance an American nuclear retaliation after we ate a DPRK Hydrogen bomb?

The only thing that wouldn't be commensurate is the DPRK doesn't have as much nice stuff to atomize.

They would countenance a limited nuclear retaliation, counterforce against the NK nuclear weapons, they would not countenance a massive retaliation to obliterate the North Koreans, because Russia and China and significant strategic assets, are right there just across the border, so nuking the North Koreans into the stone age, would involve nuking the Russians and Chinese and their strategic assets at the same time inclusive to that.

This would incite the Russians and Chinese to retaliate with nuclear weapons in theater, against similar US targets, South Korea, Japan, Guam, and then you're off to the races all the way to all out nuclear war, which is why, big time massive retaliation against North Korea hitting the Russians and Chinese too by default; America could not, and would not actually risk that.

So even if you get hit with an H-bomb, the North Korean regime would survive retaliation and live to fight another day, you'd hit them hard, you kill a lot of North Koreans, but you wouldn't kill the regime itself, meanwhile, you've still been hit with hydrogen bombs in the CONUS, millions are dead and dying, and you are crippled.

I see what you are saying.

Still, an H-bomb wouldn't end the American government either. I am fairly confident we could get away with dealing commensurate damage without glassing the whole damn peninsula.

That is why having a nuke is viewed as a deterrent, if I understand it. Anyone with the reasoning capabilities required to build one has the reasoning capabilities to understand there are no good end states once they start flying.

[Smitty-48]

I see what you are saying.

Still, an H-bomb wouldn't end the American government either. I am fairly confident we could get away with dealing commensurate damage without glassing the whole damn peninsula.

That is why having a nuke is viewed as a deterrent, if I understand it. Anyone with the reasoning capabilities required to build one has the reasoning capabilities to understand there are no good end states once they start flying.

You're projecting yourselves onto the North Korean regime, this is the big mistake you Americans are making here, "they're just like us", but they're not like you at all, and the regime is dug in deep, without glassing the place, you're not going to get to them, they could easily hunker down and ride out a counterforce, the only people you would glass, would be a bunch of hapless NK civilians who would be left in the open, but the regime, dug in and hunkered down; they don't care.

Juche doctrine, it is the duty and in fact privilege of those NK civilians to die for Juche. After the smoke cleared and regime came back up out of their holes, they'd build some monuments to the "Heroes of the Juche War Against the American Imperialists!", but that's about it, otherwise, they'd just get back to being the Hermit Kingdom, same as they ever were.

Meanwhile, the US government is not destroyed, but make no mistake, you are crippled, the republic would not perish from the earth, but it would be knocked down a few rungs, and pushing the Russians and Chinese around, would not be an option, rather, they would start to push you around, exploiting the situation to their advantage.

Plus, throw a few million American moms wives and kids on the pyre, if you're sanguine about millions of your women and children being dead and dying, and radioactive fallout devastating the CONUS? Fair enough I guess, but me, not so much.

[pineapplemike]

I too have had problems with my Samsung phone unlocking itself in my pocket through the personal assistant or through the quick-camera icon, which yeah also bypasses the lock screen. So, sure why not, fuck em.

[Smitty-48]

See, the thing to realize, is that you don't actually know who these regime elements really are, the power behind the throne, all you know is their mascot, Kim Jong Un, but make no mistake, before they launched the strike against the CONUS, all these people would go to ground, Kim Jong Un too, you can locate the major strategic targets, but where the regime leadership was dug in, that you could not locate, and rest assured, they would not be sitting in the bunkers where they knew the US was going hit back, they would go to ground, in places which you cannot find, and which would not be in the kill zones, so absent glassing the whole place right down to the DNA, you're not going to get them.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

You're projecting yourselves onto the North Korean regime, this is the big mistake you Americans are making here, "they're just like us", but they're not like you at all, and the regime is dug in deep, without glassing the place, you're not going to get to them, they could easily hunker down and ride out a counterforce, the only people you would glass, would be a bunch of hapless NK civilians who would be left in the open, but the regime, dug in and hunkered down; they don't care.

Juche doctrine, it is the duty and in fact privilege of those NK civilians to die for Juche. After the smoke cleared and regime came back up out of their holes, they'd build some monuments to the "Heroes of the Juche War Against the American Imperialists!", but that's about it, otherwise, they'd just get back to being the Hermit Kingdom, same as they ever were.

Meanwhile, the US government is not destroyed, but make no mistake, you are crippled, the republic would not perish from the earth, but it would be knocked down a few rungs, and pushing the Russians and Chinese around, would not be an option, rather, they would start to push you around, exploiting the situation to their advantage.

Plus, throw a few million American moms wives and kids on the pyre, if you're sanguine about millions of your women and children being dead and dying, and radioactive fallout devastating the CONUS? Fair enough I guess, but me, not so much.

I don't think that no one has considered that NK operates differently than the US. We just can't realistically expect to convince the world that we have a good reason to initiate a first strike. This isn't just American hubris. I just hope all that quick draw technology we've been promising to get right actually gets sorted before NK missile crisis.

Obviously, any actual nuclear exchange is less that ideal. And you are right... American's would probably take it harder for not seeing our dead as martyrs for a great leader.

[Speaker to Animals]

Maybe Kim Jong Un was delivering one of his speeches about how North Korea was going to rain down fiery vengeance upon America when suddenly Royals started blasting from his crotch, and he decided Seoul has to pay for this.

[Smitty-48]

I don't think that no one has considered that NK operates differently than the US. We just can't realistically expect to convince the world that we have a good reason to initiate a first strike. This isn't just American hubris. I just hope all that quick draw technology we've been promising to get right actually gets sorted before NK missile crisis.

Obviously, any actual nuclear exchange is less that ideal. And you are right... American's would probably take it harder for not seeing our dead as martyrs for a great leader.

Well, first of all, I am looking at this from the point of view of an American Commander-in-Chief, and If I was the American CinC, the opinions of the rest of the world take a back seat to the lives of millions of Americans, and the security of the CONUS against a limited yet none the less devastating thermonuclear strike.

As CinC, I would simply redefine the paradigm, I would take action to bring the North Korean threat down, before it reached the threshold of Redwings over the CONUS, and I would use the B61's in a limited and focussed counrterforce operation, no fail mission, to get it all on the first pass.

Then I would simply deal with the rest of the world straight up about it, and I am confident that the American allies and partners whom I truly could rely on, would not forsake America, and certainly not turn on her with malice.

Those who did forsake and turn on her with malice, those who lined up as the apologists and defenders of the abomination in Pyongyang with hydrogen bombs at its disposal?

Don't need them with me, don't want them with me, and they would in fact, be making a big mistake to bet against me and the American people, never bet against the Eagles with Thunderbolts in Talons Grapsed, if you know what's good for you.

As for ballistic missile defense? It would get some, but it wouldn't get em all, and as American CinC, I'm not betting the CONUS on BMD, and I'm not prepared to acccept, even one hydrogen bomb getting through, never mind a half dozen.

[Speaker to Animals]

I mean.. Un would become an instant celebrity in the west if he threatened to incinerate Seoul if Samsung did not stop blocking the apps that disabled the Bixby button.

[Hanarchy Montanarchy]

Well, first of all, I am looking at this from the point of view of an American Commander-in-Chief, and If I was the American CinC, the opinions of the rest of the world take a back seat to the lives of millions of Americans, and the security of the CONUS against a limited yet none the less devastating thermonuclear strike.

As CinC, I would simply redefine the paradigm, I would take action to bring the North Korean threat down, before it reached threshold of Redwings over the CONUS, and I would use the B61's in a limited and focussed counrterforce operation, no fail mission, get it all on the first pass.

The I would simply deal with the rest of the world straight up about it, and I am confident that the American allies and partners whom I truly could rely on, would not forsake America, and certainly not turn on her with malice.

Those who did forsake and turn on her with malice, those who lined up as the apoligists and defenders of the abomination in Pyongyang with hydroge bombs at its disposal?

Don't need them with me, don't want them with me, and they would in fact, be making a big mistake to bet against me and the American people, never bet against the Eagles with Thunderbolts in Talons Grapsed, if you know what's good for you.

As for ballistic missile defense? It would get some, but it wouldn't get em all, and as American CinC, I'm not betting the CONUS on BMD, and I'm not prepared to acccept, even one hydrogen bomb getting through, never mind a half dozen.

If Russia and China are going to be this huge problem if we counter strike post Redwing, how do they not become a huge damn problem if we decide to shoot first?