THE ERA OF TRUMP

[Smitty-48]

Doesn't matter who it was. The CIA, FBI, et al have no credibility.

It's not "et al", only CIA, with FBI and NSA endorsing the CIA report, none of the fourteen other Intel agencies have endorsed the report, and the ODNI has stated there's "no conclusive evidence" therein.

To me, this is a classic cooked report, the CIA cooked it up, FBI and NSA are just going along with it, but the rest of the IC is steering clear, and so is the ODNI, and that's usually a sign, that they know it's ginned up, and so they don't want any part of it.

I mean, it's obviously ginned up CYA for the Democrat party losers, we know that, but the ODNI not wanting to touch it; is just confirmation.

[Okeefenokee]

Doesn't matter who it was. The CIA, FBI, et al have no credibility.

It's not "et al", only CIA, with FBI and NSA endorsing the CIA report, none of the fourteen other Intel agencies have endorsed the report, and the ODNI has stated there's "no conclusive evidence" therein.

To me, this is a classic cooked report, the CIA cooked it up, FBI and NSA are just going along with it, but the rest of the IC is steering clear, and so is the ODNI, and that's usually a sign, that they know it's ginned up, and so they don't want any part of it.

Good point,

Office Of The Director Of National Intelligence: We're Not Sure About The CIA's Assessment On Russia

At the time of the DNC hack, outgoing DNI Director James Clapper downplayed the cyber attack, adding that this is just another aspect of the geopolitical world, and that Americans should calm down about the hacking.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/ ... a-n2259121

[Okeefenokee]

[Smitty-48]

That's ODNI, going out of their way, to not endorse the report, which is classic cooked report dodging; CIA is out on a limb, ODNI says; "it's not us, it's just them"

[Okeefenokee]

[Smitty-48]

The hilarious part is, even though there's zero actual evidence tying it to the Russians, all the CIA report basically says, is that somebody released all the Democrats embarrassing secrets, that they were trying to hide from the American people, and near as I can tell, that's all constitutionally protected speech, yet somehow these clowns are thinking that they are going to get somewhere, calling attention to the fact that they got exposed as being bad actors against the American people, who make Mr. Ivan look good by comparison.

At this point, liberals, your credbility is lower than even Mr. Ivan's in the swing districts, that's pretty much a sign, that it's time to stop digging.

You're going to build an axis, of Team Donald Trump, Team Vladimir Putin, Team Glenn Greenwald, and Team Julian Assange, and then charge right into the teeth of that? lol. That's a recipe for getting your asses handed to you all over again, even worse next time, that's the Axis of Internet Ultra Trolls, who are going to tear you to pieces, I don't think you've thought this one through.

The GOP, the KGB, the Intercept, and Wikileaks? Oh my word, you gonna get badly mauled, throwing yourself into the teeth of that, that's a lethal combination.

[ssu]

Doesn't matter who it was. The CIA, FBI, et al have no credibility.

It's not "et al", only CIA, with FBI and NSA endorsing the CIA report, none of the fourteen other Intel agencies have endorsed the report, and the ODNI has stated there's "no conclusive evidence" therein.

To me, this is a classic cooked report, the CIA cooked it up, FBI and NSA are just going along with it, but the rest of the IC is steering clear, and so is the ODNI, and that's usually a sign, that they know it's ginned up, and so they don't want any part of it.

Good point,

Office Of The Director Of National Intelligence: We're Not Sure About The CIA's Assessment On Russia

At the time of the DNC hack, outgoing DNI Director James Clapper downplayed the cyber attack, adding that this is just another aspect of the geopolitical world, and that Americans should calm down about the hacking.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/ ... a-n2259121

Oh you are so desperate!!!

Yeah, at the time of the DNC hack James Clapper was indeed calming people before jumping to conclusions. I remember that, I was then also sceptical of it being some Clinton spin then. Now the election is over, time to stop the campaign mudslinging. Well, NOW HE IS MAKING THOSE CONCLUSIONS.

The head of U.S. intelligence told a Senate committee Thursday that Russia poses "an existential threat to the United States." James Clapper made the comment while testifying about Russian hacking during the presidential campaign. "I don't think that we have ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process," the director of national intelligence told the Senate Armed Services Committee.

See CNBC Thursday, 5 Jan 2017 here

And do notice this part too:

But Clapper also said the Russian hacking efforts "did not change the vote tallies" in the election, which ended with Donald Trump's victory. Clapper was referring specifically to the question of whether voting machines could have been manipulated to affect the outcome.

It's really funny how still people are here in a denial of this, perhaps simply because some annoying democrats try to make the most of it (and exaggerate it, of course). Yet the denial that it wasn't the Russians, that we cannot be sure, that it might have been the Chinese, or it might have been a 400 pound guy on a bed.... that's the annoying part. Because just what the fuck do you lose by admitting the Russians did it? Heck, they do similar things for example in the UK. And the hacking is JUST A PART of the campaign. They have done these kind of things in a spectacular fashion in my country, of course, but that Putin has the balls to do it to you is the thing here.

That's ODNI, going out of their way, to not endorse the report, which is classic cooked report dodging; CIA is out on a limb, ODNI says; "it's not us, it's just them"

Oh for fucks sake...

Just fucking READ which Department this report comes from: Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections Hint: It is the Office of the Director of the National Intelligence.

So, if we all agree Russia did this, you have to agree that the US does the exact same shit.

I don't see everybody agreeing here it was Russia. For people here it wasn't the Russians, but a just a DNC hoax that for some reason the intelligence services are doing for an administration that is only for a few weeks in power. And no, it's not an act of war. Information warfare goes on all the time. And Russia is winning it.

The US surely makes it effort to use espionage on everybody, that's for sure. Yet the US hasn't have the balls or simply the chance to do something like this to China or Russia. And trying to push a favorite in the Kremlin or in Beijing would be hard. You see these kind of operations the US does occasionally, while Russia does all the time continuously, even if on a slow burner at times.

[Martin Hash]

Somebody did mention that the Ukraine coup was a U.S. initiative, right?

p.s. I'm still with Assange. Have been since he hacked the Defense Dept, Navy, MILNET, NASA & the Pentagon when he was 15. The Russians could learn something from that sumbitch.

[ssu]

Somebody did mention that the Ukraine coup was a U.S. initiative, right?

You really believe that without the US the Maidan revolt wouldn't have happened? Really?

That Ukrainians would be otherwise totally happy with Yanukovich, who now even didn't get a refuge with the breakaway rebels, the area which was his base?

Fall for the "Nazi Coup" rhetoric? Sure, there were few of those, but in truth, wasn't some CIA sponsored astro-turf event. One thing is for the US to try to influence events, another thing is to be the sole culprit of those events.

p.s. I'm still with Assange. Have been since he hacked the Defense Dept, Navy, MILNET, NASA & the Pentagon when he was 15. The Russians could learn something from that sumbitch.

Hacking is one thing, using that information in the public realm is another thing, which the Russians have learned. Assange has to try to live with the conditions he has. I assume Assange, just like some Snowden, wouldn't want to be close to Russia at all, if they could be living freely where they want.

And believe me Martin, I understand that the US can do these operations too.

I have a personal experience what that "information warfare" looks like in the net.

When there was the Kosovo bombings going on, I participated in a discussion thread on the BBC website. Then I made the following mistake: I copy-pasted a deliourious article from a Serbian propaganda site AS AN EXAMPLE of stupid propaganda. What happened was interesting, the text turned into total nonsense. Hence when the quote was copied from the Serbian site to the BBC site, it simply wouldn't write it. Now didn't matter that I was trying to say that it was baseless propaganda. Then when I logged off and came back to check the thread, the Americans/Brits were fuming at me. Hence somebody had taken my Identity (while I was offline) and pissed off everybody.

What's the point here? It was a discussion thread on the BBC during an effective war.

So yes, the US & the West do know about information warfare and do occasionally these kind of things. But just occasionally, like when there is a war going on. But not otherwise.

[Smitty-48]

That's ODNI, going out of their way, to not endorse the report, which is classic cooked report dodging; CIA is out on a limb, ODNI says; "it's not us, it's just them"

Oh for fucks sake...

Just fucking READ which Department this report comes from: Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections Hint: It is the Office of the Director of the National Intelligence.

All reports come through the ODNI, that doesn't mean every agency therein endorses the CIA's conclusions, that Russia hacked the election to beat the Democrats, which is obviously the Democrats and Cucks getting the CIA to come up with excuses for them, after they were so totally humiliated by having their asses handed to them by the likes of Donald Trump.

The ODNI itself however, does not endorse the CIA's blatantly cooked assessment, so breathlessly pumped up to maximum volume by the totally baised liberal media, the ODNI position, is "lack of conclusive evidence that Moscow intended to boost Trump over Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton"

I understand that you're an hysterical Russian Red Scare fear mongering kook, ssu, but that's no reason to be a bitch hack for the Democrat party, whatever you think of Vladimir Putin, the Democrats are totally full of shit, and so is the CIA, for being their so obviously compromised dick sucking waterboys.

It's the CIA which is destroying its own credibility, by so obviously favouring one candidate over the other, and then making themselves proxies therein, it's not Vladimir Putin undermining faith in the CIA, the CIA is doing that all on its own, by whoring themselves out as clearly biased political talking heads, instead of just doing their fucking jobs as quiet professionals.

When the CIA becomes proxy for MSNBC, that's not Vladimir Putin making them do that, that's the CIA making themselves into a farce, all on their own.

It's all context, the idea that the CIA just happens to be coming out with this blatantly ginned up "report" in the middle of all that's going on, and is not doing so with a biased poltical agenda to prop up the Democrats and their Cuck buddies in Congress against Donald Trump at all costs, is just silly, don't try to kid the troops.

Obvious CIA dick sucking Cuck whores is obvious, ssu, I mean, get real.