If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, why does Trump need money from Congress?

[BjornP]

Couldn't the repelling of illegal immigrants simply be done by existing police with riot training? Achieve the same outcome with fewer ressources, iow. Maybe grant federal funding for the states in need of more border police, with better riot training.

Isn't that whole Guatamalan caravan thing a one-off thing, though?

[Speaker to Animals]

Probably not. I mean.. that's what we were doing. We not have tens of millions of illegals destroying our nation, and it's getting worse every year.

[heydaralon]

Couldn't the repelling of illegal immigrants simply be done by existing police with riot training? Achieve the same outcome with fewer ressources, iow. Maybe grant federal funding for the states in need of more border police, with better riot training.

Isn't that whole Guatamalan caravan thing a one-off thing, though?

Do you really think that if we let in that whole caravan no questions asked, and didn't make a fuss, the entire the Central American region wouldn't immediately try the same thing? Come on man...

[doc_loliday]

You're just ignoring what I'm saying and adding LOLs at the end. The powers were enabled for emergency military/war measures, because there would be no time for congress to respond. If millions of people came all at the same time, I think that would be a time to exercise those powers. But there is no immediate existential threat, regardless of whether he can declare a national emergency.

[doc_loliday]

Couldn't the repelling of illegal immigrants simply be done by existing police with riot training? Achieve the same outcome with fewer ressources, iow. Maybe grant federal funding for the states in need of more border police, with better riot training.

Isn't that whole Guatamalan caravan thing a one-off thing, though?

It's clear there aren't enough resources, at that needs to be remedied, including a longer term solution, like a wall.

[Speaker to Animals]

You're just ignoring what I'm saying and adding LOLs at the end. The powers were enabled for emergency military/war measures, because there would be no time for congress to respond. If millions of people came all at the same time, I think that would be practical. But there is no immediate existential threat, regardless of whether he can declare a national emergency.

Think about what you are writing.

If Mexico raised an army and invaded our country, does the Pentagon need to wait for Nancy Pelosi and Chucky Schumer to get out of bed to repel the invaders?

[doc_loliday]

You're just ignoring what I'm saying and adding LOLs at the end. The powers were enabled for emergency military/war measures, because there would be no time for congress to respond. If millions of people came all at the same time, I think that would be practical. But there is no immediate existential threat, regardless of whether he can declare a national emergency.

Think about what you are writing.

If Mexico raised an army and invaded our country, does the Pentagon need to wait for Nancy Pelosi and Chucky Schumer to get out of bed to repel the invaders?

I think the answer lies somewhere in the paragraph you quoted me in.

[Speaker to Animals]

You're just ignoring what I'm saying and adding LOLs at the end. The powers were enabled for emergency military/war measures, because there would be no time for congress to respond. If millions of people came all at the same time, I think that would be practical. But there is no immediate existential threat, regardless of whether he can declare a national emergency.

Think about what you are writing.

If Mexico raised an army and invaded our country, does the Pentagon need to wait for Nancy Pelosi and Chucky Schumer to get out of bed to repel the invaders?

I think the answer lies somewhere in the paragraph you quoted me in.

So Mexico need only send over a few hundred soldiers at a time? Does that make sense?

[Speaker to Animals]

QRD:

Article 4 Section 4 states:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

How does the the federal government protect each state from invasion by foreigners? The armed forces.

Article 2 Section 2 states:

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

The President is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces. It is the job of the federal government, led by the President, to protect states from incursions by foreigners.

He has every authority to do this. It's laughable that suddenly people get butthurt about a president allegedly overstepping his authority when Trump is the first guy in a LONG FUCKING TIME to actually get it right by forcing Congress to declare war in Syria if they want troops there and securing the God damned border from even more foreign national invading our country.

[doc_loliday]

Pretty lame hypothetical since Mexico isn't sending any of their army, so it's neither here nor there.