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Re: Statues

Post by kybkh » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:26 am

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Re: Statues

Post by apeman » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:27 am

de officiis wrote:
Hastur wrote:The left constantly uses the Motte-And-Bailey fallacy when debating these things. They go out in organized protest, prepared for combat, cracking completely anonymous strangers heads with bike locks, but when confronted they just claim the right to spontaneously have a peaceful protests against Nazis. It's fucking disgusting that they always get away with it.
And the media covers for them. The American people understand this.
The people really do, even my little sister sees through it (she is a useful source because she represents the unwashed masses, she doesn't even know who the VP is, yet she now knows CNN is fake news)

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Re: Statues

Post by apeman » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:31 am

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Re: Statues

Post by DBTrek » Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:59 am

California wrote:I'm just astonished how many people think the Left is truly innocent in all of this. Even then they come up with some BS like "its ok to punch Nazis BECUZ NATSEE"
It is an amazing disconnect.

In the last year we've seen antifa knocking people comatose, mobs waving Mexican flags beating Trump supporters bloody, Universities barring conservative speakers due to leftist mob violence, a BLM supporter sniping police officers, another deranged leftist opening fire on Republican congressmen . . . and yet none of this registers as ideological violence to the left.

We can point at neonazis and white supremacists ad say "Damn, you all are fucked up because your ideology drives you to violence, and that's not cool" . . . but should anyone point out that "Many of these leftists are fucked up because their ideology drives them to violence" there's a huge backlash from the media and public at large.

WTF?

Ideologically driven violence = ideologically driven violence.
It's a fact so obvious as to require no further explanation. A = A. B = B.
Yet half this country (at least) is hypnotized into some mass delusion that leftist ideological violence is an exception to the rule.

/shrug
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Re: Statues

Post by Speaker to Animals » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:18 am

Yeah, this civil war reenactment might go too far in the near future.

Aside from the murdered cops (and the perps if alive should be executed by artillery for that) and the women attacked at the first Berkeley riot, most of the casualties were people who showed up for a fight.

If the cops are going to hold back like this, I'd prefer for them to lay the hammer down on anybody who attacks nonparticipants (can there be a noncombatant rule in a street war?) and just laugh it off when the combatants run each other over in the steets. When the media gets apoplectic about it, the police chief should tell them that people who play stupid games win stupid prizes, get a job.

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Re: Statues

Post by Ex-California » Wed Aug 23, 2017 8:41 am

DBTrek wrote:
California wrote:I'm just astonished how many people think the Left is truly innocent in all of this. Even then they come up with some BS like "its ok to punch Nazis BECUZ NATSEE"
It is an amazing disconnect.

In the last year we've seen antifa knocking people comatose, mobs waving Mexican flags beating Trump supporters bloody, Universities barring conservative speakers due to leftist mob violence, a BLM supporter sniping police officers, another deranged leftist opening fire on Republican congressmen . . . and yet none of this registers as ideological violence to the left.

We can point at neonazis and white supremacists ad say "Damn, you all are fucked up because your ideology drives you to violence, and that's not cool" . . . but should anyone point out that "Many of these leftists are fucked up because their ideology drives them to violence" there's a huge backlash from the media and public at large.

WTF?

Ideologically driven violence = ideologically driven violence.
It's a fact so obvious as to require no further explanation. A = A. B = B.
Yet half this country (at least) is hypnotized into some mass delusion that leftist ideological violence is an exception to the rule.

/shrug
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ifallalot wrote:
eldoc wrote:I'd be surprised to see another tiki torch march. Too dangerous. These antifa people are going to stop fooling around. Justified outrage + $485K college debt + semi automatic whatever is going to impinge on some Fred Perrys. Where's your helicopter? Where's your little frog?
This would be funny if you just didn't actually threaten to shoot people who disagree with you

Yet our side are "fascists?"
I think you're safe as long as you and your buddies don't go out prancing around with your polos and haircuts.
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Re: Statues

Post by de officiis » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:28 am

DBTrek wrote:
California wrote:I'm just astonished how many people think the Left is truly innocent in all of this. Even then they come up with some BS like "its ok to punch Nazis BECUZ NATSEE"
It is an amazing disconnect.

In the last year we've seen antifa knocking people comatose, mobs waving Mexican flags beating Trump supporters bloody, Universities barring conservative speakers due to leftist mob violence, a BLM supporter sniping police officers, another deranged leftist opening fire on Republican congressmen . . . and yet none of this registers as ideological violence to the left.

We can point at neonazis and white supremacists ad say "Damn, you all are fucked up because your ideology drives you to violence, and that's not cool" . . . but should anyone point out that "Many of these leftists are fucked up because their ideology drives them to violence" there's a huge backlash from the media and public at large.

WTF?

Ideologically driven violence = ideologically driven violence.
It's a fact so obvious as to require no further explanation. A = A. B = B.
Yet half this country (at least) is hypnotized into some mass delusion that leftist ideological violence is an exception to the rule.

/shrug
I would suggest less delusional, and more relecting the power of rationalization coupled with alot of impatience and an "ends justify the means" mentality.
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Re: Statues

Post by C-Mag » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:38 am

kybkh wrote:Image
I saw that one, thanks for posting it.

How in the fuck do the faculty rationalize this or put up with it ?
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Re: Statues

Post by C-Mag » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:40 am

California wrote: Quotes from the surf forum today
eldoc wrote:
ifallalot wrote: This would be funny if you just didn't actually threaten to shoot people who disagree with you

Yet our side are "fascists?"
I think you're safe as long as you and your buddies don't go out prancing around with your polos and haircuts.
It's a strange attitude. Tyrannical.
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Re: Statues

Post by DBTrek » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:42 am

C-Mag wrote:How in the fuck do the faculty rationalize this or put up with it ?
Because they're our educated "betters", and it's their burden to do the right thing for the rest of we stupid proles who are simply too uneducated and common to understand the nuances of life, history, politics, and art as well as they.

I believe that's the prevailing sentiment among college faculty, right?
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