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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by C-Mag » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:01 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:"FIFTH largest attendance" is not a win, they only moved the ceremony to the west side of the building in 1981, before that, the crowds were much smaller, so "FIFTH largest" would actually be one of the worst attended since Reagan moved it, that's George H. W. Bush territory. Obama, Obama, Clinton are one two and three, then Bush jr, then Bush sr.
Something is going on the newsfeeds since yesterday! I read a ranking on USA Today (anti-Trump) that had Reagan first, Obama second, Bush Jr. third,(can't remember), Trump 5th, (can't remember), Carter, Ford, all 2nd terms, in that order. I should have linked it because today, after 30 minutes of Google, I can't find it! In fact, lots of new hits come up from anti-Trump news organs with really negative slants on attendance. I DID find this however.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by K@th » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:07 pm

Martin Hash wrote: I DID find this however.
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Better read it now because it will probably be gone tomorrow.

p.s. That's FIFTH largest with a fucking boycott going on. Count the "100 Billion Women March" in the turnout, and Trump wins HAND'S DOWN!
Why will it be gone tomorrow? I'm not clear on the point you are making... All the article points out is that no matter how you slice & dice the facts & data, Trump had lower attendance than Obama.

The reason I'm asking is because you said, " lots of new hits come up from anti-Trump news organs with really negative slants on attendance. I DID find this however."

You found another article agreeing that attendance was lower. Lots of those around.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:51 pm

Penner wrote:Trump is the president now and he should just get over things like, crowd size (and SNL making fun of him) and just focus on actually what he was elected to office to do- which was to bring the jobs back (although, I have already expressed my skepticism on that as well, in another thread here).
Why can't he focus on both? Undermining the media's attacks on him gives him more political capital to push his economic agenda. Gives him elbow room. You act like focusing on one means you can't focus on the other, I'm not seeing why that assumption makes sense.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by Penner » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:33 pm

StCapps wrote:
Penner wrote:Trump is the president now and he should just get over things like, crowd size (and SNL making fun of him) and just focus on actually what he was elected to office to do- which was to bring the jobs back (although, I have already expressed my skepticism on that as well, in another thread here).
Why can't he focus on both? Undermining the media's attacks on him gives him more political capital to push his economic agenda. Gives him elbow room. You act like focusing on one means you can't focus on the other, I'm not seeing why that assumption makes sense.
Well, because once the shit will hit the fan, in whatever area that US presidents have to deal with, he just can't worry about his ego anymore. So, next crisis how is he going to act? What happens when NK threatens SK and/or the US, or when China acts up again in the South China Sea, or Putin (well, okay he is buddies with Putin so I am going to place my expectations on low with this one), etc...
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:37 pm

Penner wrote:Well, because once the shit will hit the fan, in whatever area that US presidents have to deal with, he just can't worry about his ego anymore. So, next crisis how is he going to act? What happens when NK threatens SK and/or the US, or when China acts up again in the South China Sea, or Putin (well, okay he is buddies with Putin so I am going to place my expectations on low with this one), etc...
Why don't you tell us what happens, if you know so much about it? You're the one making the assertions, so back your shit up, Chicken Little Sky Is Falling.

If you say the sky is going to fall, you tell us how that happens, otherwise, you're just talking out of your ass.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by Penner » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:39 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Penner wrote:Well, because once the shit will hit the fan, in whatever area that US presidents have to deal with, he just can't worry about his ego anymore. So, next crisis how is he going to act? What happens when NK threatens SK and/or the US, or when China acts up again in the South China Sea, or Putin (well, okay he is buddies with Putin so I am going to place my expectations on low with this one), etc...
Why don't you tell us what happens, if you know so much about it? You're the one making the assertions, so back your shit up, Chicken Little Sky Is Falling.
Hey, all I am saying is that Trump needs to not worry about things like crowd sizes and strat focusing on the real leadership stuff.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by Smitty-48 » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:41 pm

Penner wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Penner wrote:Well, because once the shit will hit the fan, in whatever area that US presidents have to deal with, he just can't worry about his ego anymore. So, next crisis how is he going to act? What happens when NK threatens SK and/or the US, or when China acts up again in the South China Sea, or Putin (well, okay he is buddies with Putin so I am going to place my expectations on low with this one), etc...
Why don't you tell us what happens, if you know so much about it? You're the one making the assertions, so back your shit up, Chicken Little Sky Is Falling.
Hey, all I am saying is that Trump needs to not worry about things like crowd sizes and strat focusing on the real leadership stuff.
What does he have to worry about in PACOM? You're the one worrying, so tell us what is the thing we should be worrying about, put up or shut up. You're invoking a dire threat, OK, so articulate what that looks like, in some detail so we know what you are talking about and/or that you know what you are talking about.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by StCapps » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:42 pm

Penner wrote:Hey, all I am saying is that Trump needs to not worry about things like crowd sizes and strat focusing on the real leadership stuff.
You still haven't shown why he can't do both at the same time. Why do you assume he's distracted just because he talks about the media lying about the crowd size? That is an assumption that still hasn't been backed up by any facts.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by Penner » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:43 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
Penner wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:
Why don't you tell us what happens, if you know so much about it? You're the one making the assertions, so back your shit up, Chicken Little Sky Is Falling.
Hey, all I am saying is that Trump needs to not worry about things like crowd sizes and strat focusing on the real leadership stuff.
What does he have to worry about in PACOM? You're the one worrying, so tell us what is the thing we should be worrying about, put up or shut up.
Dude, everyone is worried about what Trump will do during an international crisis. Because his behavior is so knee-jerky and his ego have to be stroked- just look at his administration speaking over crowd size.
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Re: Alternative Facts

Post by Penner » Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:43 pm

StCapps wrote:
Penner wrote:Hey, all I am saying is that Trump needs to not worry about things like crowd sizes and strat focusing on the real leadership stuff.
You still haven't shown why he can't do both at the same time. Why do you assume he's distracted just because he talks about the media lying about the crowd size? That is an assumption that still hasn't been backed up by any facts.
In my opinion, lately, you have become Smitty's echo.
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