China, A Communist Nation

[Zlaxer]

Back to China -

Not feeling comfortable with the Chinese businesses buying up so much media in Hollywood.....China is not our friend, they're nobody's friend - not even their own citizens.....they've openly stated that they're trying to "rebrand" the Chinese government in the eyes of the world.....

FUCK THE PRC

I doubt China would need to slip paper envelopes to Hollywood execs to rebrand China... Behind the Hollywood liberal actors and directors, there lie businesses simply wanting to make more money. China's a huge market simply = Make movies the Chinese would like to watch. So, they're already doing it, without needing Chinese companies actually taking over their studios.

And hell, Hollywood gets paid... at the end that's Americans making dollars off of the Chinese, just like most of your movies and TV shows have gotten sold to Europe like nobody's business for several decades. Capitalism's working as intended.

Respectfully, I think you misunderstand....its not the PRC wanting to make movies Chinese want to see...its the PRC trying to subvertly change westerners' view of the PRC by controlling the image of the PRC in western media...you know, good old state sanctioned propaganda.....

[BjornP]

Atm, seems the Chinese influence seems more commercial, with US action heroes using (to a Chinese consumer) well known Chinese products in their product placing. Anyway, just like old Soviet propaganda's efficiency was mostly aimed at those Americans who were either pre-Soviet sympathizers already, or groups fundamentally at odds with the system and power structure and given the general rep of China, I don't see China competing with the degree of influence of Russian or even Iranian propaganda in the US.

They need a sizeable, popular base defendingthem for any propaganda to have an effect.

[Speaker to Animals]

Best way to go about it is more Hollywood films like the Ip Man franchise, which was mildly propagandistic. They are making some really good films out of there right now. I'd imagine they could do screenplays that feature Americans and Chinese together doing stuff. Something about the Flying Tigers would be interesting.

Imagine a miniseries that is some kind of SF story about space invasion with hard SF elements like BSG had, but with joint American and Chinese casts depicting the two super powers in the future joining together to fight a common enemy.

Stuff like that is how you will win hearts and minds of Americans.

But even their first Ip Man film was low-key in that propaganda element. They went way to easy on the Japanese there, making them look a lot more humane than they really were. I thought that was odd.

[DrYouth]

Didn't Americans and Chinese cooperate in The Martian...
a bit of a start there... pretty weak tho

[Fife]

Didn't Americans and Chinese cooperate in The Martian...
a bit of a start there... pretty weak tho

Read the book.

Do you do that?

[DrYouth]

Didn't Americans and Chinese cooperate in The Martian...
a bit of a start there... pretty weak tho

Read the book.

Do you do that?

I read books...

But not The Martian... it wasn't that great of a movie...

Why?

[Fife]

Nevermind, you've answered the question.

[Penner]

Huh? What's the AFCA?

The Affordable Care Act. I refuse to call it Obomacare like the media does. Sounds silly.

It's a crap deal... written by lobbyists to protect the profits of Big Health Insurance...
The problem is that health care is not well managed by private entities... it's not well managed by public ones either but the state needs to at least oversee the process with some authority or else the commoners will be milked for every last penny and then left to die in squalor.
Obamacare was a bad attempt at a compromise that Big Insurance had too much of a hand in writing up.

I have mix feelings. I don't like the mandatory buying of insurance nor the fact that there were no caps placed on drug prices or the fact that there was no Public Option alternative to buying private insurance. But I did like that they outlawed those lifetime caps that were placed on people, and the fact that it's not illegal to sell woman insurance at higher prices than men, etc...

[Okeefenokee]

Didn't Americans and Chinese cooperate in The Martian...
a bit of a start there... pretty weak tho

Read the book.

Do you do that?

I read books...

But not The Martian... it wasn't that great of a movie...

Why?

Read it. It's good. Movie is a garbage heap.

[Calculus Man]

Didn't Americans and Chinese cooperate in The Martian...
a bit of a start there... pretty weak tho

Read the book.

Do you do that?

It's been a while since I read/watched The Martian, but if I remember right, the book portrayed the Chinese in a much more realistic light. Before they helped NASA, they asked for something in return.

In the movie, the Chinese simply helped out of the goodness of their hearts.

I noticed it right away while watching the movie--it killed my suspension of disbelief.