Meanwhile in Iraq & Syria

[Fife]

Have you ever heard of Vietnam?

What's more likely, this is merely saber rattling, or this is the next Vietnam?

What's the difference? Trump is Kennedy/Johnson/Nixon/Ford/Carter/Reagan/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama 11.0 on that shit anyway. Amirite?

[heydaralon]

Why does the west have such a hard on for Assad? This is like Saddam 2.0. The man is a piece of shit, but he is the only one holding that country together. We still think in the West that you can simply remove an evil leader, and that good will follow. What always ends up happening is replacing a centralized evil with a chaotic diffused evil that is often more destructive. You could make a good case that the Syrian situation is a direct result of the Iraq war and this toxic magical thinking. Getting rid of Assad is like taking the shit out of the toilet and putting it on the floor.

[Okeefenokee]

Why does the west have such a hard on for Assad? This is like Saddam 2.0. The man is a piece of shit, but he is the only one holding that country together. We still think in the West that you can simply remove an evil leader, and that good will follow. What always ends up happening is replacing a centralized evil with a chaotic diffused evil that is often more destructive. You could make a good case that the Syrian situation is a direct result of the Iraq war and this toxic magical thinking. Getting rid of Assad is like taking the shit out of the toilet and putting it on the floor.

What is the media?

I'll take fake news for one thousand.

[StCapps]

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John Carlson
Matt Niskanen
Karl Alzner
Kevin Shattenkirk
Dmitry Orlov
Brooks Orpik
Nate Schmidt

That ain't that great a D, all those guys don't add up to a Keith and Seabrook, it's actually very beatable D, I think the Leafs could get to them.

Yeah and you could beat up on the Columbus defense even easier, because they suck a whole lot more than Washington does on defense. Not only that but they are the much better offensive team as well. Would rather face Columbus honestly sounds like trolling, that's crazy talk.

See, the thing about that D, it's an example of how the Caps are built for the regular season but not the playoffs, it's a deep D, but with no real top paring, so they can carry you along for the regular season, but when it comes playoff time, all that really matters is the top paring, and Seth Jones and Zach Werenski are better than John Carlson and Matt Niskanen, not as experienced, but I wouldn't trade Columbus' top pair for Washington's, Washington doesn't have a big horse on the back end, which is why Kris Letang has two cups and Washington has none.

Yeah they are depthy and dont have a true lockdown pair to anchor it, but that's better than Seth Jones and a bag of pucks. Columbus might have a better "top pair" but they don't have a better defense.

[Smitty-48]

Yeah and you could beat up on the Columbus defense even easier, because they suck a whole lot more than Washington does on defense. Not only that but they are the much better offensive team as well. Would rather face Columbus honestly sounds like trolling, that's crazy talk.

See, the thing about that D, it's an example of how the Caps are built for the regular season but not the playoffs, it's a deep D, but with no real top paring, so they can carry you along for the regular season, but when it comes playoff time, all that really matters is the top paring, and Seth Jones and Zach Werenski are better than John Carlson and Matt Niskanen, not as experienced, but I wouldn't trade Columbus' top pair for Washington's, Washington doesn't have a big horse on the back end, which is why Kris Letang has two cups and Washington has none.

Yeah they are depthy and dont have a true lockdown pair to anchor it, but that's better the Seth Jones and a bag of pucks. Columbus might have a better "top pair" but they don't have a better defense.

It's not a bag o' pucks in Columbus, Jones and Werenski are better than anybody on the Wash D, and it's not like Orlov and Alzner are better than Jack Johnson and David Savard, D to D, Columbus has the better top paring, after the top paring, it's about the same, hence, Columbus has the better D.

There are plenty of defensemen in the league that I would covet for the Leafs, but not one of them is on the Caps; Carlson; meh. Niskanen; meh. Alzner; meh. Orlov; meh. Orpik; meh. Washington's D; a whole lotta meh.

[StCapps]

See, the thing about that D, it's an example of how the Caps are built for the regular season but not the playoffs, it's a deep D, but with no real top paring, so they can carry you along for the regular season, but when it comes playoff time, all that really matters is the top paring, and Seth Jones and Zach Werenski are better than John Carlson and Matt Niskanen, not as experienced, but I wouldn't trade Columbus' top pair for Washington's, Washington doesn't have a big horse on the back end, which is why Kris Letang has two cups and Washington has none.

Yeah they are depthy and dont have a true lockdown pair to anchor it, but that's better the Seth Jones and a bag of pucks. Columbus might have a better "top pair" but they don't have a better defense.

It's not a bag o' pucks in Columbus, Jones and Werenski are better than anybody on the Wash D, and it's not like Orlov and Alzner are better than Jack Johnson and David Savard, D to D, Columbus has the better top paring, after the top paring, it's about the same, hence, Columbus has the better D.

Werenski is overrated, Jones makes him look good. He wasn't anything special before Seth Jones got there, he was always overrated. Columbus has Seth Jones and a bag of pucks on defense, Washington has actual defensemen, though they are nothing special.

[Smitty-48]

Yeah they are depthy and dont have a true lockdown pair to anchor it, but that's better the Seth Jones and a bag of pucks. Columbus might have a better "top pair" but they don't have a better defense.

It's not a bag o' pucks in Columbus, Jones and Werenski are better than anybody on the Wash D, and it's not like Orlov and Alzner are better than Jack Johnson and David Savard, D to D, Columbus has the better top paring, after the top paring, it's about the same, hence, Columbus has the better D.

Werenski is overrated, Jones makes him look good. He wasn't anything special before Seth Jones got there, he was always overrated. Columbus has Seth Jones and a bag of pucks on defense, Washington has actual defensemen, though they are nothing special.

Still better than John Carlson, after John Carlson, who do the Caps have? Nobody, bunch o' meh.

It's a two man team, take away Ovie and Backstrom, and the Caps wouldn't even make the playoffs.

[StCapps]

It's not a bag o' pucks in Columbus, Jones and Werenski are better than anybody on the Wash D, and it's not like Orlov and Alzner are better than Jack Johnson and David Savard, D to D, Columbus has the better top paring, after the top paring, it's about the same, hence, Columbus has the better D.

Werenski is overrated, Jones makes him look good. He wasn't anything special before Seth Jones got there, he was always overrated. Columbus has Seth Jones and a bag of pucks on defense, Washington has actual defensemen, though they are nothing special.

Still better than John Carlson, after John Carlson, who do the Caps have? Nobody, bunch o' meh.

Yeah but I know there names at least even the ones who don't play that much. Columbus is team no name on defense. I mean its obvious who is better in that regard.

[Smitty-48]

It's obvious that Washington's defense is mediocre and has been mediocre for years, the no name D is on Washington, because who would really want to swap their D for Washington's D? Nobody, it's all about Ovie and Backstrom, nobody wants anybody off the Caps D, because they actually suck, whereas every team in the league would covet Jones and Werenski, because they are actually a top paring for years to come.

[StCapps]

It's obvious that Washington's defense is mediocre and has been mediocre for years, the no name D is on Washington, because who would really want to swap their D for Washington's D? Nobody, it's all about Ovie and Backstrom, nobody wants anybody off the Caps D, because they actually suck, whereas every team in the league would covet Jones and Werenski, because they are actually a top paring for years to come.

It's still the worst part of the Caps team, but it's also the most improved part of their team over the last few years. Jones is dope, Werenski is good but overrated, the rest are a bag of pucks, including Jack Johnson. Washington has notably more depth on defense, this is pretty clear.