THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Post by K@th » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:20 pm

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Where's the proposed legislation?
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:21 pm

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StCapps wrote:There is no solution that will fix the entire problem, so bashing The Wall for not fixing the entire problem makes no sense. It's a team effort, many measures working in concert will reduce the problem, folks need to stop pretending the entire plan is only The Wall and nothing will accompany it, that is not the case.
Facial recognition software will render the problem moot for all intents and purposes, every US citizen will be in the database, every authorized visitor will be in the database, and anybody who doesn't fall into those two categories will be rapidly detected and marked out for arrest.
Still need people to arrest them, and sometimes it's easier to arrest them while they are illegally crossing the border as opposed to after they are already here hiding from facial recognition software. Border security is not obsolete, as Kath suggests.
The Chinese did a test exercise of their system, they got a foriegn journalist to agree to be the target, so it couldn't be said that they rigged it, they told her to hide in Beijing somewhere, city of 25 million, when the clock started for the test, took the police 6 minutes to catch her.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by K@th » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:21 pm

StCapps wrote: Border security is not obsolete, as Kath suggests.
No jobs? No bennies? No way to get housing? No illegal immigration.

Sheesh - peeps acting like this is rocket science that only a 400-foot wall will solve.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:22 pm

Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote: Border security is not obsolete, as Kath suggests.
No jobs? No bennies? No way to get housing? No illegal immigration.

Sheesh - peeps acting like this is rocket science that only a 400-foot wall will solve.
There will jobs, bennies and housing, it will just be harder to get, you didn't eliminate the incentive, you just reduced it.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:23 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:
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Facial recognition software will render the problem moot for all intents and purposes, every US citizen will be in the database, every authorized visitor will be in the database, and anybody who doesn't fall into those two categories will be rapidly detected and marked out for arrest.
Still need people to arrest them, and sometimes it's easier to arrest them while they are illegally crossing the border as opposed to after they are already here hiding from facial recognition software. Border security is not obsolete, as Kath suggests.
The Chinese did a test exercise of their system, they got a foriegn journalist to agree to be the target, so it couldn't be said that they rigged it, they told her to hide in Beijing somewhere, city of 25 million, when the clock started for the test, took the police 6 minutes to catch her.
Talk to me when it isn't a foreign journalist and their face actually blends into the crowd.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:24 pm

See, when you have saturation coverage, you don't need that many cops, you can get rid of a huge number of expensive cops, because the system spots anomalies, and doesn't bother with anybody else, unless they are marked out for some reason, arrest warrants, etc.
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Post by K@th » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:26 pm

StCapps wrote: There will jobs, bennies and housing, it will just be harder to get, you didn't eliminate the incentive, you just reduced it.
Employers who fail to authenticate an employees legal standing will face punitive fines.
Landlords who fail to authenticate a resident's legal standing will lose their apartment complex.
Government employees who hand out goodies without authenticating an applicant's legal standing will be fired and fined.

Remove the incentive. This "technology" goes back to the beginning of time.
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Post by K@th » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:26 pm

Smitty-48 wrote:See, when you have saturation coverage, you don't need that many cops, you can get rid of a huge number of expensive cops, because the system spots anomalies, and doesn't bother with anybody else, unless they are marked out for some reason, arrest warrants, etc.
Living in Robo-Cop world will be so much fun!
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Post by Smitty-48 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:27 pm

StCapps wrote:
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StCapps wrote:Still need people to arrest them, and sometimes it's easier to arrest them while they are illegally crossing the border as opposed to after they are already here hiding from facial recognition software. Border security is not obsolete, as Kath suggests.
The Chinese did a test exercise of their system, they got a foriegn journalist to agree to be the target, so it couldn't be said that they rigged it, they told her to hide in Beijing somewhere, city of 25 million, when the clock started for the test, took the police 6 minutes to catch her.
Talk to me when it isn't a foreign journalist and their face actually blends into the crowd.
Doesn't work that way, the computer is tracking data points, looking different doesn't matter, her face was entered into the database, it found her face in less than two minutes, but it didn't see a non-Chinese face, the computer is just looking at a set of data points.

IIRC, she was Asian anyways.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:27 pm

Kath wrote:Employers who fail to authenticate an employees legal standing will face punitive fines.
Landlords who fail to authenticate a resident's legal standing will lose their apartment complex.
Government employees who hand out goodies without authenticating an applicant's legal standing will be fired and fined.

Remove the incentive. This "technology" goes back to the beginning of time.
Make it illegal and no one will break the law. You crack me up Kath. You reduced the incentive, you didn't remove it, that's why other solutions working in concert, will reduce the incentive even further.
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