THE ERA OF TRUMP

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:36 pm

C-Mag wrote:No, but he knows how to play his enemies well.

He announces he will run, they laugh at him............... he wins
He says he will talk about an issue at his hotel, they gather....... he says a few words and gets free advertising for his hotel
He says he is being spied on, they laugh at him............he's right

The panic and passion to destroy Trump puts the man in the drivers seat and makes him look like he is playing 5-D Chess.
He is trolling his enemies into many of these blunders intentionally, knowing they can't help themselves but to react in counter-productive ways, he is an effective button pusher.

Call it whatever you want, but noticing that just makes one observant, not a Trump cheerleader.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:39 pm

StCapps wrote:
Kath wrote:
StCapps wrote:That's what they call hyperbole, and it's certainly not an important detail which Trump's support hinges on. The exact details aren't important, it's the mental image that matters, that's why the wall sold so well to Trump's base, they didn't care about the fine details, if they did, they wouldn't have liked Trump's plan which was short on them.
/shrugs
Jokes on them when there's no Great Wall of United States.
They won't care, the height, width and length were not important, the mental image of better border security is all that matters, and he doesn't need a the Great Wall on the US border to do that. A simple mental image of a wall was all it took to convince Republican primary voters that Trump was more anti-illegal immigration than even the staunchest anti-illegal immigration Republicans he was competing against, the fine details of the plan were never important to them, I'm not sure why you think that the wall not being as high or wide as they imagined will make them hate Trump, it won't.
On day one, we will begin working on an impenetrable, physical, tall, power, beautiful southern border wall.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:40 pm

Kath wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
It really is time for the US to step back a little and focus on the US and getting our house in order. Dealing with the immigrants we have is one of those issues.
I don't disagree, but Obama did make records on the number of people he deported while in office. He was the first since the Reagan era to even attempt anything. I hope Trump can make progress, but fuck the wall.

:clap: BHO
BJ Clinton was the only one to build any wall :clap:

'The Wall' needs to be a lot of things................... we've talked about this before.
Yes a physical wall in places to restrict and funnel access to areas more efficiently controlled...........already have some of this, could use more
Electronic Wall.................... we've have a bunch of this already
Economic Wall.....................make it not economically worth it to illegally cross our borders
Business Wall.......................this is E-Verify, not a major fan
there are probably more.

But the key is reduce immigration, take a breather, assimilate, work out our own social issues.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:42 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:On day one, we will begin working on an impenetrable, physical, tall, power, beautiful southern border wall.
None of those details are or were important to his base, they just caused people to picture a bigger wall in their mind's eye when Trump mentions the wall, which seems safer to the feelz. S'all about feelz, not policy details, and it always was, if you think otherwise it's because you think most voters are smarter than they actually are. Most Trump voters aren't policy wonks and they didn't elect him because of his finer points of his proposed policies, the electorate isn't that smart, and neither is the portion that voted Trump.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:43 pm

StCapps wrote:
C-Mag wrote:No, but he knows how to play his enemies well.

He announces he will run, they laugh at him............... he wins
He says he will talk about an issue at his hotel, they gather....... he says a few words and gets free advertising for his hotel
He says he is being spied on, they laugh at him............he's right

The panic and passion to destroy Trump puts the man in the drivers seat and makes him look like he is playing 5-D Chess.
He is trolling his enemies into many of these blunders intentionally, knowing they can't help themselves but to react in counter-productive ways, he is an effective button pusher.

Call it whatever you want, but noticing that just makes one observant, not a Trump cheerleader.
Fucking press deserves to be exposed for the arrogant, low skill, dumb, ignorant, low morals, low ethics, partisan shitbags they are................ couldn't happen to a nicer group.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by Okeefenokee » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:44 pm

Kath wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
It really is time for the US to step back a little and focus on the US and getting our house in order. Dealing with the immigrants we have is one of those issues.
I don't disagree, but Obama did make records on the number of people he deported while in office. He was the first since the Reagan era to even attempt anything. I hope Trump can make progress, but fuck the wall.
Nope,
The number of people deported at or near the [U.S.-Mexico] border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency’s deportation statistics.

The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.

Until recent years, most people caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called “voluntary returns,” but which critics derisively termed “catch and release.” Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s deportation statistics.

Now, the vast majority of border crossers who are apprehended get fingerprinted and formally deported. The change began during the George W. Bush administration and accelerated under Obama. The policy stemmed in part from a desire to ensure that people who had crossed into the country illegally would have formal charges on their records.

In the Obama years, all of the increase in deportations has involved people picked up within 100 miles of the border, most of whom [had] just recently crossed over. In 2013, almost two-thirds of deportations were in that category.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:49 pm

Okeefenokee wrote:
Kath wrote:
C-Mag wrote:
It really is time for the US to step back a little and focus on the US and getting our house in order. Dealing with the immigrants we have is one of those issues.
I don't disagree, but Obama did make records on the number of people he deported while in office. He was the first since the Reagan era to even attempt anything. I hope Trump can make progress, but fuck the wall.
Nope,
The number of people deported at or near the [U.S.-Mexico] border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency’s deportation statistics.

The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.

Until recent years, most people caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called “voluntary returns,” but which critics derisively termed “catch and release.” Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s deportation statistics.

Now, the vast majority of border crossers who are apprehended get fingerprinted and formally deported. The change began during the George W. Bush administration and accelerated under Obama. The policy stemmed in part from a desire to ensure that people who had crossed into the country illegally would have formal charges on their records.

In the Obama years, all of the increase in deportations has involved people picked up within 100 miles of the border, most of whom [had] just recently crossed over. In 2013, almost two-thirds of deportations were in that category.

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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by SuburbanFarmer » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:50 pm

StCapps wrote:
GrumpyCatFace wrote:On day one, we will begin working on an impenetrable, physical, tall, power, beautiful southern border wall.
None of those details are or were important to his base, they just caused people to picture a bigger wall in their mind's eye when Trump mentions the wall, which seems safer to the feelz. S'all about feelz, not policy details, and it always was, if you think otherwise it's because you think most voters are smarter than they actually are. Most Trump voters aren't policy wonks and they didn't elect him because of his finer points of his proposed policies, the electorate isn't that smart, and neither is the portion that voted Trump.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by StCapps » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:52 pm

Trump's base doesn't care about the details, no matter how many times you mention the extremely vague details he outlined on the campaign trail. They won't leave him because The Wall doesn't live up to campaign hyperbole, get real, if he gives them any wall, they'll look the other way on the obvious embellishment that helped him build it.
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Re: THE ERA OF TRUMP

Post by C-Mag » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:54 pm

GrumpyCatFace wrote:
StCapps wrote:
Kath wrote: Jokes on them when there's no Great Wall of United States.
They won't care, the height, width and length were not important, the mental image of better border security is all that matters, and he doesn't need a the Great Wall on the US border to do that. A simple mental image of a wall was all it took to convince Republican primary voters that Trump was more anti-illegal immigration than even the staunchest anti-illegal immigration Republicans he was competing against, the fine details of the plan were never important to them, I'm not sure why you think that the wall not being as high or wide as they imagined will make them hate Trump, it won't.
On day one, we will begin working on an impenetrable, physical, tall, power, beautiful southern border wall.

You do know in contracting, doing administrative tasks related to the project are considered working on the project, this includes meetings and discussions. Trump most likely talked about the wall on day one, Legally he checked that off.

But Drive On............... you've had so few victories in the last year we should probably give you this one. ;)
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