Trump Impeachment (Public Hearing)

[StCapps]

https://tass.com/world/1090971

Not a smoking gun. Getting paid is not a crime, that's evidence of someone else committing a crime to pay him, not evidence of Biden committing a crime.

You have grounds for an investigation, but not proof of Biden's guilt. You are reaching almost as much as the Demohacks are, with claims of a smoking gun, not a good look. Enough of the obvious double standards dude, stop being triggered by Democrats into acting just like them only on the other side.

You wont have it until the investigation is done. But you be you and ignore the facts.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... is-revived

You might not get it when the investigation is done, the Democrats say the same thing about Trump, "wait until the investigation is over and then we'll have our smoking gun". Same hackery on both sides.

I am not ignoring facts, you are ignoring them with this "Biden is done naow!" crap, no different from the Demohacks "Trump is done naow!" crap.

[The Conservative]

Not a smoking gun. Getting paid is not a crime, that's evidence of someone else committing a crime to pay him, not evidence of Biden committing a crime.

You have grounds for an investigation, but not proof of Biden's guilt. You are reaching almost as much as the Demohacks are, with claims of a smoking gun, not a good look. Enough of the obvious double standards dude, stop being triggered by Democrats into acting just like them only on the other side.

You wont have it until the investigation is done. But you be you and ignore the facts.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... is-revived

You might not get it when the investigation is done, the Democrats say the same thing about Trump, "wait until the investigation is over and then we'll have our smoking gun". Same hackery on both sides.

I am not ignoring facts, you are ignoring them with this "Biden is done naow!" crap, no different from the Demohacks "Trump is done naow!" crap.

Did you read the last link? It's obvious you didn't.

The timeline is well explained there and how Biden’s son and even Biden himself was involved in shutting down the investigation.

[StCapps]

You wont have it until the investigation is done. But you be you and ignore the facts.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house ... is-revived

You might not get it when the investigation is done, the Democrats say the same thing about Trump, "wait until the investigation is over and then we'll have our smoking gun". Same hackery on both sides.

I am not ignoring facts, you are ignoring them with this "Biden is done naow!" crap, no different from the Demohacks "Trump is done naow!" crap.

Did you read the last link? It's obvious you didn't.

The timeline is well explained there and how Biden’s son and even Biden himself was involved in shutting down the investigation.

Shutting down the investigation isn't a smoking gun, you have to prove he only did it to save himself and his family, and for No Other Reason. Mind reading doesn't count, anymore than it counts when diplomat's attempt it, actual evidence is required.

[Hastur]

I'm with StCapps on this one. Both are just examples of business as usual. We are being shown how the sausage is made, and we don't like what it looks like. If selective leaking is a new trend I think people will tire of it fast. Chicken Little bullshit.

[StCapps]

I'm with StCapps on this one. Both are just examples of business as usual. We are being shown how the sausage is made, and we don't like what it looks like. If selective leaking is a new trend I think people will tire of it fast. Chicken Little bullshit.

Quid Pro Quo's are how negotiation with foreign nations are done, there is nothing nefarious about it. Depends on the nature of quid pro quo, some are nefarious, others are not, the mere existence of a quid pro quo that helps a politician politically is not a crime. Whether it's Biden or Trump doing it, makes no difference.

[The Conservative]

I'm with StCapps on this one. Both are just examples of business as usual. We are being shown how the sausage is made, and we don't like what it looks like. If selective leaking is a new trend I think people will tire of it fast. Chicken Little bullshit.

Quid Pro Quo's are how negotiation with foreign nations are done, there is nothing nefarious about it. Depends on the nature of quid pro quo, some are nefarious, others are not, the mere existence of a quid pro quo that helps a politician politically is not a crime. Whether it's Biden or Trump doing it, makes no difference.

Wow, you ignore the difference between a request to do what was promised vs. extortion to force someone to look the other way...

Remember, the person that Biden called a good seed is picking up the investigation that his predecessor was ultimately fired for looking into.

Quid Pro Quo is not the same as extortion.

[StCapps]

I'm with StCapps on this one. Both are just examples of business as usual. We are being shown how the sausage is made, and we don't like what it looks like. If selective leaking is a new trend I think people will tire of it fast. Chicken Little bullshit.

Quid Pro Quo's are how negotiation with foreign nations are done, there is nothing nefarious about it. Depends on the nature of quid pro quo, some are nefarious, others are not, the mere existence of a quid pro quo that helps a politician politically is not a crime. Whether it's Biden or Trump doing it, makes no difference.

Wow, you ignore the difference between a request to do what was promised vs. extortion to force someone to look the other way...

Remember, the person that Biden called a good seed is picking up the investigation that his predecessor was ultimately fired for looking into.

Quid Pro Quo is not the same as extortion.

Nope. Biden said take it or leave it, and they took it. That's called negotiation, he didn't force anyone to do anything.

It's a simple Quid Pro Quo, you do this, I'll do that, you don't do this, I won't do that.

Nothing nefarious there unless you can prove it was all about saving his son and himself at the expense of what the Obama Admin believed was in US interests, which you can't. If it helps Biden and his son, while Joe believed it to be of benefit to US interests and he wasn't going rogue without Obama's permission, then there is nothing legally wrong with that.

[The Conservative]

Quid Pro Quo's are how negotiation with foreign nations are done, there is nothing nefarious about it. Depends on the nature of quid pro quo, some are nefarious, others are not, the mere existence of a quid pro quo that helps a politician politically is not a crime. Whether it's Biden or Trump doing it, makes no difference.

Wow, you ignore the difference between a request to do what was promised vs. extortion to force someone to look the other way...

Remember, the person that Biden called a good seed is picking up the investigation that his predecessor was ultimately fired for looking into.

Quid Pro Quo is not the same as extortion.

Nope. Biden said take it or leave it, and they took it. That's called negotiation, he didn't force anyone to do anything.

It's a simple Quid Pro Quo, you do this, I'll do that, you don't do this, I won't do that. Nothing nefarious there unless you can prove it was all about saving his son and himself at the expense of what the Obama Admin believed was in US interests, which you can't.

Once you are serious about talking about this. Post again. Cherry picking quips and ignoring the entire conversation is not worth my time.

You just proved extortion.

[StCapps]

Wow, you ignore the difference between a request to do what was promised vs. extortion to force someone to look the other way...

Remember, the person that Biden called a good seed is picking up the investigation that his predecessor was ultimately fired for looking into.

Quid Pro Quo is not the same as extortion.

Nope. Biden said take it or leave it, and they took it. That's called negotiation, he didn't force anyone to do anything.

It's a simple Quid Pro Quo, you do this, I'll do that, you don't do this, I won't do that. Nothing nefarious there unless you can prove it was all about saving his son and himself at the expense of what the Obama Admin believed was in US interests, which you can't.

Once you are serious about talking about this. Post again. Cherry picking quips and ignoring the entire conversation is not worth my time.

You just proved extortion.

A Quid Pro Quo is not necessarily extortion, you are conflating the two, while giving Trump a pass for being accused of the same thing by others conflating a Quid Pro Quo for extortion.

You are the one not being serious, either that or your confirmation bias that "Orange Man Good, Creepy Joe Bad" is getting in the way of seeing an obvious double standard.

[The Conservative]

Nope. Biden said take it or leave it, and they took it. That's called negotiation, he didn't force anyone to do anything.

It's a simple Quid Pro Quo, you do this, I'll do that, you don't do this, I won't do that. Nothing nefarious there unless you can prove it was all about saving his son and himself at the expense of what the Obama Admin believed was in US interests, which you can't.

Once you are serious about talking about this. Post again. Cherry picking quips and ignoring the entire conversation is not worth my time.

You just proved extortion.

A Quid Pro Quo is not necessarily extortion, you are conflating the two, while giving Trump a pass for being accused of the same thing by others conflating a Quid Pro Quo for extortion.

You are the one not being serious, either that or your confirmation bias that "Orange Man Good, Creepy Joe Bad" is getting in the way of seeing an obvious double standard.

I may be an idiot that wrote a book, but I do think I can tell the difference between Quid Pro Quo and extortion...

I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike

If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.

Which sounds like a request, which sounds like extortion?