Merican Nazi: An Origin story

[Montegriffo]

Monty is a John Majorite Tory, he's said so many times, well to the right of Donald Trump, John Major was, Trump is to the left of Bill Clinton in fact, it's not like Donald Trump is recognizably conservative, he's basically a New York Democrat who hijacked the Republican party through the Blue Wall.

John Major IMO is the finest Prime minister Britain has had in my lifetime. A man of honour who stood by his principles when being attacked by his ''bastards'' from the back benches of his own party.
A pro European, he has broken years of dignified silence to speak out against Brexit.
He gave up power gracefully unlike his predecessor.
He worked with a tiny majority in the house to do what was best for his country despite some very difficult times such as black Wednesday.
He was the architect of the Northern Ireland peace accord bringing decades of violence to an end.
He won a record breaking 4th general election for the Tories gaining the most votes in British electoral history.
He negotiated the Maastrict treaty and Britain's place in the EU.

On a personal note, he came from a circus background and has a great love of cricket.
Described by the press as the grey man for his lack of charisma he spoke calmly and to the point avoiding the hyperbole of many in his position.

I raise my glass to the honorable Sir John Major.
hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray.....

[clubgop]

Did you report my chukie cheese joke? Cause You should've, can't go "backwards 5 years old" deep in the ball pit there.

[clubgop]

Monty is a John Majorite Tory, he's said so many times, well to the right of Donald Trump, John Major was, Trump is to the left of Bill Clinton in fact, it's not like Donald Trump is recognizably conservative, he's basically a New York Democrat who hijacked the Republican party through the Blue Wall.

John Major IMO is the finest Prime minister Britain has had in my lifetime. A man of honour who stood by his principles when being attacked by his ''bastards'' from the back benches of his own party.
A pro European, he has broken years of dignified silence to speak out against Brexit.
He gave up power gracefully unlike his predecessor.
He worked with a tiny majority in the house to do what was best for his country despite some very difficult times such as black Wednesday.
He was the architect of the Northern Ireland peace accord bringing decades of violence to an end.
He won a record breaking 4th general election for the Tories gaining the most votes in British electoral history.
He negotiated the Maastrict treaty and Britain's place in the EU.

On a personal note, he came from a circus background and has a great love of cricket.
Described by the press as the grey man for his lack of charisma he spoke calmly and to the point avoiding the hyperbole of many in his position.

I raise my glass to the honorable Sir John Major.
hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray.....

No Thatcher, no John Major. You have a severe Oedipus conflict going on here. Explains a lot. Dont get it backwards like 5 year old , Thatcher is majors mommy, and your as well. Biting the hand that feeds you. Leftist behavior that.

[BjornP]

But his leftism is manifest in other ways. Like how he wants to abrogate his sovereignty to Brussels. His actions are leftist.

Yeah, it's only those European and British leftists that love and support the EU! Excatly! You got it right, clubby. A regoolar pawlitkool expoit, you is.

That was just one example, I stand by it. Is UKIP and other parties like that considered left? Is that I am supposed to believe? Anit Brexi made it a left right fight and they lost it. Oh do you like the EU and don't consider yourself a leftist? You want to make this about you? No one gives an icy fuck. Be in your place with unnecessary vowels and shoovee it.

Then you stand on very shaky ground. UKIP is one single, very minor, British party amongst a sea of EU skeptical parties that are both leftist and right-wing. The EU coincidentally, is more than Britain... Even just in an exclusively British context, you're still not making sense. You want a name of a British Conservative party that favored staying in the EU: The Conservative party... Want another major Conservative player in the EU? Jean-Claude Juncker. Want a British leftist party that agitated for Brexit? Socialist Labour Party.

Leftist euroskeptic parties and organizations in the EU by country:

Austria: Socialist Left Party
Croatia: Red Action
Denmark: Unity List + (though they're more soft euroskeptics) The Socialist People's Party.
Czech Republic: Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia.
France: French Communist Party
UK: Socialist Labour Party (not to be confused with that other Labour party...) + Communist Party of Britain.
Italy: Five Star Movement

And I do consider myself a leftist, given how I usually vote Social Democrat or Socialist People Party. And no, I don't like the EU as it exists today.

[Montegriffo]

I can repeat ad nausium that I object to the federalisation of Europe and only favoured staying in because of the undoubted economical benefits of the single market but all certain people hear is that I want to give up sovereignty to Brussels and open the borders to Islamic terrorists.
At the end of the day it does not seem to matter what I write as low info shitheads have decided that I'm a raving commie who is an unpatriotic ISIS supporter. Luckily there are a few here who actually read what I write and know all that is demonstrably untrue.

[Smitty-48]

Monty is a John Majorite Tory, he's said so many times, well to the right of Donald Trump, John Major was, Trump is to the left of Bill Clinton in fact, it's not like Donald Trump is recognizably conservative, he's basically a New York Democrat who hijacked the Republican party through the Blue Wall.

John Major IMO is the finest Prime minister Britain has had in my lifetime. A man of honour who stood by his principles when being attacked by his ''bastards'' from the back benches of his own party.
A pro European, he has broken years of dignified silence to speak out against Brexit.
He gave up power gracefully unlike his predecessor.
He worked with a tiny majority in the house to do what was best for his country despite some very difficult times such as black Wednesday.
He was the architect of the Northern Ireland peace accord bringing decades of violence to an end.
He won a record breaking 4th general election for the Tories gaining the most votes in British electoral history.
He negotiated the Maastrict treaty and Britain's place in the EU.

On a personal note, he came from a circus background and has a great love of cricket.
Described by the press as the grey man for his lack of charisma he spoke calmly and to the point avoiding the hyperbole of many in his position.

I raise my glass to the honorable Sir John Major.
hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray, hip hip hooray.....

It's not as if I have anything against Sir John, preaching to the choir, I am not exorcised by Major as you are by Thatcher, I like them both, I just like Thatcher better, Maggie is the war chief, scourge of the Fenian Bastards and Argentine Juntas both.

[Montegriffo]

Maybe it boils down to my preference for jaw jaw over war war.
As I've admitted to you before, at first I was a fan of the Finchley dictator but fell out of love with her when it became clear that she had no time for listening to the objections of her cabinet and didn't know the meaning of compromise. By the time she had surrounded herself with fawning yes men too scared to dial back her excesses I had forsaken her.
She was indeed the forces sweetheart despite her early cuts to the military budget but Sir John's approach to ending the violence of the Papist scourge through negotiation and compromise proved more effective than her undying faith in military force.

[Smitty-48]

Maybe it boils down to my preference for jaw jaw over war war.
As I've admitted to you before, at first I was a fan of the Finchley dictator but fell out of love with her when it became clear that she had no time for listening to the objections of her cabinet and didn't know the meaning of compromise. By the time she had surrounded herself with fawning yes men too scared to dial back her excesses I had forsaken her.
She was indeed the forces sweetheart despite her early cuts to the military budget but Sir John's approach to ending the violence of the Papist scourge through negotiation and compromise proved more effective than her undying faith in military force.

There was no jaw jaw to be had with the Fenians in 1979, nor at Princes Gate in 1980, nor in the South Atlantic in 1982, none the less, there was jaw jaw with Mr. Gorbachev, the Iron Lady was not opposed to jaw jaw, where and when appropriate.

[Smitty-48]

Fact was, there would have been no jaw jaw for Major, without the Iron Lady, quail before them in 1979, and you'd have no parley in 1999 to speak of.

You do not negotiate simply for the sake of negotiation itself, when there is something to negotiate, so be it, when there is not, stand firm.

[Montegriffo]

That may be true but my impression of the ferrous female was that talk was her last resort rather than her first. Confrontation rather than conversation was her forte.
Great for dealing with half starved bolshie miners or poorly trained Argie conscripts but of little use against nuclear superpowers or well armed Catholic terrorists.