The Opioid Crisis

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by doc_loliday » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:36 pm

Fife wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:31 pm
What patents will big pharma roll out through the FDA rubber stamp mill next tho?
It's hard for me to see any kind of reversal of the trend any time soon, since the country is still reeling. Maybe once the memory of the devastation is gone, it's possible. Maybe in a couple generations.

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by Martin Hash » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:39 pm

doc_loliday wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:07 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:59 am
Fentanyl is #1 and the screws have been down on it since the beginning, and heroin is #2 and it’s totally illegal.
I meant illegally produced and sold fentanyl. The opioid crisis began because of the large amounts of prescription narcotics flooding the streets. Once that got clamped down on, the addicts turied to heroin, which has been replaced by fentanyl. My point is, I think in the coming decades, we will see a decline in opioid addiction, since people don't start shooting fentanyl and heroin.
ILLEGALLY produced Fentanyl is NOT part of the "prescription drug epidemic." Racheting down on legal pain medications because of illegal production is NOT the answer.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by doc_loliday » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:43 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:39 pm
doc_loliday wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:07 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:59 am
Fentanyl is #1 and the screws have been down on it since the beginning, and heroin is #2 and it’s totally illegal.
I meant illegally produced and sold fentanyl. The opioid crisis began because of the large amounts of prescription narcotics flooding the streets. Once that got clamped down on, the addicts turied to heroin, which has been replaced by fentanyl. My point is, I think in the coming decades, we will see a decline in opioid addiction, since people don't start shooting fentanyl and heroin.
ILLEGALLY produced Fentanyl is NOT part of the "prescription drug epidemic." Racheting down on legal pain medications because of illegal production is NOT the answer.

I didn't mean to say they were. I was talking about the opioid crisis in general. I agree that it has been become harder for those in legitimate pain to get the medicine they need and that isn't right. But there was a good long run where it was really easy to get prescription drugs. Oxy was everywhere.

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:48 pm

Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:39 pm
doc_loliday wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:07 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:59 am
Fentanyl is #1 and the screws have been down on it since the beginning, and heroin is #2 and it’s totally illegal.
I meant illegally produced and sold fentanyl. The opioid crisis began because of the large amounts of prescription narcotics flooding the streets. Once that got clamped down on, the addicts turied to heroin, which has been replaced by fentanyl. My point is, I think in the coming decades, we will see a decline in opioid addiction, since people don't start shooting fentanyl and heroin.
ILLEGALLY produced Fentanyl is NOT part of the "prescription drug epidemic." Racheting down on legal pain medications because of illegal production is NOT the answer.

GO AFTER THE FUCKING PRC - THEY MAKE THIS SHIT AND IMPORT IT INTO THE US - THEY LEARNED FROM THE FUCKING BRITS.

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by doc_loliday » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:57 pm

Zlaxer wrote: GO AFTER THE FUCKING PRC - THEY MAKE THIS SHIT AND IMPORT IT INTO THE US - THEY LEARNED FROM THE FUCKING BRITS.
What do you suggest be done?

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by DBTrek » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:01 pm

doc_loliday wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:57 pm
Zlaxer wrote: GO AFTER THE FUCKING PRC - THEY MAKE THIS SHIT AND IMPORT IT INTO THE US - THEY LEARNED FROM THE FUCKING BRITS.
What do you suggest be done?
Dude, you know Zlaxer.
And you know his answer is going to involve nukes, and probably be in all caps.
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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by Speaker to Animals » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:29 pm

doc_loliday wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:43 pm
Martin Hash wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:39 pm
doc_loliday wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:07 pm


I meant illegally produced and sold fentanyl. The opioid crisis began because of the large amounts of prescription narcotics flooding the streets. Once that got clamped down on, the addicts turied to heroin, which has been replaced by fentanyl. My point is, I think in the coming decades, we will see a decline in opioid addiction, since people don't start shooting fentanyl and heroin.
ILLEGALLY produced Fentanyl is NOT part of the "prescription drug epidemic." Racheting down on legal pain medications because of illegal production is NOT the answer.

I didn't mean to say they were. I was talking about the opioid crisis in general. I agree that it has been become harder for those in legitimate pain to get the medicine they need and that isn't right. But there was a good long run where it was really easy to get prescription drugs. Oxy was everywhere.
It is extremely difficult now. I suspect suicide is rising as a result. Before opium products hit western markets, most people in that kind of pain managed to hasten their deaths if not outright kill themselves

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:47 pm

DBTrek wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:01 pm
doc_loliday wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:57 pm
Zlaxer wrote: GO AFTER THE FUCKING PRC - THEY MAKE THIS SHIT AND IMPORT IT INTO THE US - THEY LEARNED FROM THE FUCKING BRITS.
What do you suggest be done?
Dude, you know Zlaxer.
And you know his answer is going to involve nukes, and probably be in all caps.
:naughty:

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

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Re: The Opioid Crisis

Post by Zlaxer » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:57 pm

doc_loliday wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:57 pm
Zlaxer wrote: GO AFTER THE FUCKING PRC - THEY MAKE THIS SHIT AND IMPORT IT INTO THE US - THEY LEARNED FROM THE FUCKING BRITS.
What do you suggest be done?


Total embargo against PRC. Cut them out of the WTC.

Won't happen....but that's what God Emperor Zlaxer would do...

Seriously - this is a deliberate move against the US by the PRC....they know first hand how opiates can wreck a country.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars