It's interesting that you won't admit to any responsibility of the Democrat Party and their racist history.JohnDonne wrote:Judging by your responses, you seem to conflate my use of the word right with racist repeatedly, although I have not used the words racist against the right, racism doesn't come into my argument at all.C-Mag wrote:JohnDonne wrote: Carlus, you're making a few errors. I said the cultural divides of right and left are geographically based, not racism.
Forget the terms Democrat and Republican as being continuous identities through history because they are not, and that's because the parties are subject to shifts in cultural identity depending on the regions they hold power in.
Notice how it was the Southerners who defended the standing social orders and hierarchies of the day in the 1850s. Notice how the Southerners today largely have the same conservative, reactionary political culture, which is applied to modern progressive ideas, even though, get this, they have a different political party affiliation than in the 1850s.
That is why it doesn't matter whether the Democrats or Republicans control the South, because the political culture of the South is conservative, reactionary, right wing, and has been that way since the Civil War, where the great American identities were tempered like steel through flames.
It's simply an ahistorical modern conservative fantasy to claim that the KKK was left wing in any of its manifestations. I understand the appeal to the imagination, being defeated ignobly by the North, and then having to bear the shame of responsibility for forming the first terrorist organization in American history, and the racism, it is only natural that conservatives would try to wash their hands of their history and blame progressives for it, through the simplistic fig leaf of the party affiliations.
You've got quite a juggling act going there. It's an admirable try. But where I give you facts, you avoid them. I know where you are going with this BS Dixiecrat switch, it's a myth.
J. William Fullbright is a saint amongst todays Dems and the Left, he was a tremendous racist and a very intelligent educated man, and like his protégé Bill Clinton and Oxford Scholar. Woodrow Wilson too was highly educated, Johns Hopkins, Cornell, Weslyan, New York Law, and Princeton; but he was a huge racist. These are mere examples of the highly educated racists of the left. What you never hear is the lefts leadership apologizing for these people, the pain, suffering and human tradegy they caused. No, the Left embraces and loves these people.
What you are doing here, is using Liberal and Conservative titles to make excuses for the Democrats Racist history, a history that the Democrats seem quite proud to embrace. As proof of this you make the argument that it is Hollywoods bad stereotypical country boy bubba that is the flag bearer of racism. That is just BS, oh and here's some numbers to prove it.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 ... -fairness/
Direct Question. JohnnDonne, do you believe the Democrat Party should apologize for their role in Slavery, Jim Crow, stalling Civil Rights and Segregation ?The gap in perceptions between urban and rural residents is widest when it comes to the treatment of blacks in the criminal justice system. Half of all urbanites say blacks are treated less fairly than whites in dealing with the police, compared with just 30% of rural residents. And a similar gap emerges regarding the courts—about four-in-ten urbanites (41%) see racial bias, compared with about a quarter of those who live in rural areas (24%).
I simply pointed out that the right formed the KKK while under the Democrat banner, which was the conservative party at the time. The label right or conservative is not a semantic trick to confuse anyone, nor are they code words for racist. The KKK is and was a right-wing reactionary group by definition and were manifestly so from their inception to the modern day. It's actually revisionist hogwash to suggest that they were leftists simply because of the fig leaf "Democrat equals leftist" associations we hold today, regardless of historical and cultural/political/regional forces of the time the KKK was formed.
As for your question, I don't see the relevance at all but put whatever answer would suit your purposes.
Where I can agree with you is that the Democrat South that created the KKK was for the status quo. Just as the violent response that we see today against Liberals like Milo and McInnes are conservative as well. The status quo candidate for president in the last election was Hillary Clinton. Though Hillary campaigned as a Liberal, she is truly the Conservative. I'm glad we can agree, as a Classica Liberal myself, I share the danger of Conservatives like you do.
"liberal like Milo" struck a chord with me.. 
