THE ERA OF TRUMP

[Okeefenokee]

Unless you're the descendant of a conquistador, you aren't the descendant of someone that came here to conquer. The vast majority of white Americans are simply descendants of people that left their country because they thought they'd have a better life. They didn't owe their homeland shit. An African in Africa is as tied to Africa as you are. They have their own free will and don't belong to their state.

This is horseshit. The vast majority of colonists came here with deep loyalty to Britain, and is why the vast majority of colonists didn't take part in the revolution.

Retract your nonsense.

This is the post that started it.

It's completely false. Immigrants are almost universally tied to where they came from. Nearly none of the immigrants who have ever come to the US, or any other nation, came with a full rejection of where they came from.

I don't even have a problem with the idea that people from place X will be representatives of people from place X when they go to place Y. That's simply natural.

This stupid idea that immigrants are automatically rejecting everything from where they are from, simply because they chose to move, is where I have a problem.

It's not true. If it were true, we'd have the world monopoly on anti-collectivist ideology.

[TheReal_ND]

Who here remembers when Jewish congressmen starting throwing around the term "Nordic supremacy," regarding our prior immigration policies before "white supremacy" was even a thing?

Pepperidge Farm remembers

[doc_loliday]

Unless you're the descendant of a conquistador, you aren't the descendant of someone that came here to conquer. The vast majority of white Americans are simply descendants of people that left their country because they thought they'd have a better life. They didn't owe their homeland shit. An African in Africa is as tied to Africa as you are. They have their own free will and don't belong to their state.

This is horseshit. The vast majority of colonists came here with deep loyalty to Britain, and is why the vast majority of colonists didn't take part in the revolution.

Retract your nonsense.

This is the post that started it.

It's completely false. Immigrants are almost universally tied to where they came from. Nearly none of the immigrants who have ever come to the US, or any other nation, came with a full rejection of where they came from.

I don't even have a problem with the idea that people from place X will be representatives of people from place X when they go to place Y. That's simply natural.

This stupid idea that immigrants are automatically rejecting everything from where they are from, simply because they chose to move, is where I have a problem.

It's not true. If it were true, we'd have the world monopoly on anti-collectivist ideology.

Enough with this "rejection" nonsense. I never said immigrants categorically reject their values to come to the US. I never said they reject some of it. I never implied it. Seriously, if I said you have quoted me saying it. And everyone that reads it knows it too.This is just grasping.


Onto your new pivot... Universally tied? Like it's a law of the universe that no man can move? No man has to be tied to the land in which he was born, so long as his country and the new country allow it. It's ridiculous to say that you belong to the state, especially if the state allows you to move. derp.

[TheReal_ND]

What if I told you that it's a man's ties to the land that give him the right to it? You know, like blood and soil type stuff. The things our ancestors fought for.

[doc_loliday]

What if I told you that it's a man's ties to the land that give him the right to it? You know, like blood and soil type stuff. The things our ancestors fought for.

I am of the opinion that paying for the land gives you the right to it.

One thing I should point out. I have twice said that IF we are to have an immigration policy, it should be one that benefits the US. I'm not necessarily even arguing that we should be importing millions of people. I don't see a reason to to be honest, because bringing in engineers from Africa hurts me and bringing in laborers hurts laborers. But assuming the need is there, I really don't care where they come from.

[TheReal_ND]

To add to that; if you believe that first world populations use more resources and contribute to global warming, there is absolutely no reason to import third worlders to the first world and subsidize their reproduction. In fact, little red pill, the earliest environmentalists were anti-immigration until you know who contributed millions of 1960's dollars to their think tanks.

Another point is that automation should be coming on line and most of these people we are importing to do "jobs white bois won't do," are going to become redundant drains. Not to mention subsidized low wage workers holding back innovation.

[doc_loliday]

And to expound on what I said earlier, I don't think its racist to "not want to be a minority in a country" or even to want to be in a single ethnic state. I don't think America makes a very good claim for an ethno state though, but more importantly our country is about ideas, its in our mythos. Religion, color, etc, should all be irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. I think other countries are fine to protect their ethnic heritage, but I just don't see a pure white America as baked into the cake.

It's also worth bringing up again what has been said before. It's the white people of this country that are poisoning everything. So I don't think having all white people is going fix anything. All the ridiculous sjw shit everyone despises is rooted in white leftism. They're the ones spreading hate and sowing division between the races and the minorities are just following their lead. But all of this is why America should hold the idea as paramount, we just need more helicopters.

[doc_loliday]

To add to that; if you believe that first world populations use more resources and contribute to global warming, there is absolutely no reason to import third worlders to the first world and subsidize their reproduction. In fact, little red pill, the earliest environmentalists were anti-immigration until you know who contributed millions of 1960's dollars to their think tanks.

Another point is that automation should be coming on line and most of these people we are importing to do "jobs white bois won't do," are going to become redundant drains. Not to mention subsidized low wage workers holding back innovation.

I don't need to tell you of course, but the reason why leftists want open borders is because their hearts are filled with hatred, and most of that hatred is directed toward white people, so anything to reduce the white to minority especially black ratio is good. So any other passions they have, like global warming (which ironically is often rooted in white hatred) takes a back seat.

[TheReal_ND]

I just don't see a pure white America as baked into the cake.

No worries there mate. Once you remove "white" Hispanics from the census we are actually less than 50% of the population. We are already a plural minority and most people aren't even aware of it.

I am however. Fucking Houston. Fuck this hell hole

[TheReal_ND]

It's the white people of this country that are poisoning everything

Bring me a list of their last names. You would be shocked to find out how many of these "white" people are ethnic Jews acting like white people when it suits them.