Russia! Russia!! Russia!!!

[Montegriffo]

To be fair Sadam certainly did have WMD's. Not only does France have the receipts from selling chemical weapons to him there is plenty of evidence that he used them on Iran and the Kurdish population within Iraq. The fact that he'd used them all up or hid them so well that no one can find them is not evidence that he didn't have any.

[TheReal_ND]

You're thinking of the Sarin gas receipts that wouldn't have the shelf life to last as long as it took for us to invade him. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good narrative though. WMD's are just sexy sounding.

Also, technically I should point out that France only sold him the chemical components of their refining waste that are necessary to make Sarin. But he probably made Sarin.

Also, I doubt he would have the balls to gas Iranians. Maybe Shiite of Iranian descent and Kurds.

[Okeefenokee]

To be fair Sadam certainly did have WMD's. Not only does France have the receipts from selling chemical weapons to him there is plenty of evidence that he used them on Iran and the Kurdish population within Iraq. The fact that he'd used them all up or hid them so well that no one can find them is not evidence that he didn't have any.

Fucking liar lying like always.

It wasn't claimed that he had used gas in the past. Nice try.

The claim from the CIA and all other IC agencies was that he had a fully fledged WMD industry, which was a fucking lie. Just like the one you're trying to pedal.

[Montegriffo]

You're thinking of the Sarin gas receipts that wouldn't have the shelf life to last as long as it took for us to invade him. Don't let the facts get in the way of a good narrative though. WMD's are just sexy sounding.

Also, technically I should point out that France only sold him the chemical components of their refining waste that are necessary to make Sarin. But he probably made Sarin.

Well if he had the means to manufacture sarin there's no reason to believe he would use up all the ingredients to make one large batch rather than make it in smaller amounts in order to string it out. All conjecture really but the fact he had used CW's on Iran and his own population is not in dispute.

[TheReal_ND]

I'm fairly certain that is in dispute in fact. The White Helmets have long since been outed as political agitators. I'm not sure about the shelf life of the base components but the shelf life of sarin is vanishingly short.

[Montegriffo]

http://world.time.com/2014/01/20/iran-s ... s-attacks/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/iran- ... -sanctions

http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exc ... ssed-iran/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... jured.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 95485.html

[TheReal_ND]

Uh. Did you have a point here?

[C-Mag]

I know Penner....... the Nerve of Drumpf to run for POTUS when it was Her Turn.

Has nothing to with Clinto but that fact that Trump fired Comet, hire Flynn when he was warn to not hire hime, filled his team with shady people with Russian ties, etc....

Comey was justly fired. The POTUS has the authority to do so. Further, Comey deserved to be fired for blatantly disregarding the security of the nation and the integrity of maintaining secure COMSEC. Comey released classified information to a friend for release to the media, illegal. Comey testified before Congress that he had not predetermined the guilt or innocence of Hillary until the investigation was complete. In fact, we have the documents that show Comey had already decided to give Hillary a pass for specific crimes she was clearly guilty of committing.

Obama warned Trump not to hire Flynn - well of course. Flynn retired because Obama couldn't handle the truth. Mike Flynn as head of the Defense intelligence Agency that moving to topple Assad would lead to radicals establishing a strong foothold in Syria. Flynn had correctly predicted the rise of ISIS. After Obama F'd it up, Flynn was a liability.

Trump filled his team with shady people with Russian ties. What exactly is 'filled' I'm not being obtuse, when I fill a beer glass it is at least 90% Full, so are 90% of the Trump team shady Russophiles ? If so, where is your proof ? Now if you mean guys like Carter Page, he worked for the FBI and the Clintons in the past, is that shady ? Or Paul Manafort, who worked with the Podesta group.............. so yeah, I'd agree Manafort and Carter Page have worked with some shady characters like the Clintons and Podestas.

The FBI
This is an agency that has been known for illegally spying on Americans for a hundred years. An agency on the wrong side of some of Americas biggest scandals and embarrassments in our history, from Teapot Dome, to Ruby Ridge, to this current embarrassment. It is the agency of Hoover, who was so corrupt and overbearing and well known for political pressure selectively applied. The FBI was front an center of punishing and creating an atmosphere of terror so great German - Americans went into hiding and changed their name during WWI. In WWII the FBI led to charge for internment of Japanese Americans, including illegal raids and spying on Americans. This was after laws had to be passed to strengthen the 4th Amendment due to FBI illegal wiretapping during the depression.

The FBI and DOJ are clearly selectively applying justice. They were more than willing to give one candidate a pass and punish another. To selectively investigate claims about Russian involvement in our elections. If the DNC servers were hacked, why didn't the FBI confiscate the servers and open an investigation. Why is there no investigation of the use of the DNC working with British and Russian agents to influence our election.

I think the Special Counsel looking into Russian election influence is bullshit............. they are only investigating Trump, why aren't they investigating the Clinton Foundation and all the Cash Hillary got from Russia, but I'm ok with it continuing. We should have a Special Counsel investigation FBI-DOJ Collusion with the DNC and Foreign Agents to influence the election. We should go to great lengths to get someone who is not influenced or tied to Washington DC in any way.

What's the difference in investigating the two sides? I can name specific crimes committed by Hillary and her team, I can name specific crimes committed by Comey and the FBI. What are the specific Crimes Trump has committed that has warranted this type of body cavity search ? You don't know, the FBI doesn't know and neither does Mueller. If they find he did something illegal, I'm fine with charges.

I'll say it again, it's funny but not a joke.
It's Trumps fault for having the nerve to run for POTUS when it was Her Turn. You can see in the FBI agents text messages they were invested in Hillary and making sure their actions didn't make her pull out of the race. Trump was a DC outsider who talked about pulling out of wars, shutting down illegal immigration and draining the swamp. Not welcome words to the likes of Comey.

I would add these FBI agents are not good people, the texts reveal they are violating COMSEC laws as well as laws for preserving evidence and files. In the Text messages Strzoks and Page are calling all Romanians 'Sleazy', said, 'I hate them all, they have the crookedness of the Russians and the entitledness of the Italians'. McCabe calls all Virginians 'dumb hillbillies', and all this talk is on Government Time, which is a violation of a bunch of racism laws. Strzoks and Page are having extra marital affairs, which I still believe gets you in hot water over your security clearance, but they did nothing. The FBI lies to withhold information from CONGRESS. The Texts were lost by Samsung, Fuck You.

FACTS
There is evidence publicly available to indict and probably imprison Hillary Clinton, James Comey, Page and Strzoks, right fucking now. And none on Trump. But the our fucking press is so committed to the Russia, Russia, Russia narrative they've bet all their credibility on it.

[TheReal_ND]

According to recently declassified CIA documents and interviews with former intelligence officials like Francona, the U.S. had firm evidence of Iraqi chemical attacks beginning in 1983. At the time, Iran was publicly alleging that illegal chemical attacks were carried out on its forces, and was building a case to present to the United Nations. But it lacked the evidence implicating Iraq, much of which was contained in top secret reports and memoranda sent to the most senior intelligence officials in the U.S. government. The CIA declined to comment for this story.

I believe this actually lol. Fucking with Iran has always been kosher.

[C-Mag]

The more that gets uncovered about this FISA crap the shakier it gets.

It appears right now all this was based on the fake dossier, then they would feed it to reporters to write a story on it to corroborate the crap they cooked up, then they took it to the judge. Told the judge it was various sources.