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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:56 am

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Smitty-48 wrote:No actually, that has been the American folly, they have sleepwalked into this for twenty years, and now they have let it come to the threshold of the breach, the window of oppotunity is closing fast, if they're going to preempt, they need to preempt now, now, now.
They might need to preempt in the not too distant future, the window of opportunity is far from closed, they don't need to preempt tomorrow. You are fear mongering.
There's no fear, nec aspera terrent, it is simply rational calculation, North Korean mass attrition v. mutual American and North Korean mass attrition, you repeating yourself ad nauseum "yawn, yawn, yawn", has not altered the equation.

There is a window of opportunity, to preempt before the breach, to nip it in the bud, harsh realm for North Korea, but not for America, the Americans are in that window, right now, but it is closing and it is closing fast.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by StCapps » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:58 am

Smitty-48 wrote:There is a window of oppotunity, to preempt before the breach, to nip it in the bud, harsh realm for North Korea, but not for America, the Americans are in that window, right now, but it is closing and it is closing fast.
It's not closing fast. Your assessment is faulty. I advise striking before the window of oppurtunity closes, but there is plenty of time.
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:59 am

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Speaker to Animals wrote:If we had dealt with it in the 90s, the SK casuties would be great, but nothing like what is risked now. The longer we do nothing, the worse the cost of doing anything about it becomes.
Sk outclasses NK more today than they did back then, the longer you wait while still preventing them from crossing the threshold the better. The optimal time would be the second before they cross it, but you can't risk cutting it that close obviously, but it would still be wise to at least wait for a little while longer.

Don't be silly. NK could level Seoul in minutes. They could drop nuclear warheads across SK now. Also, China is exponentially more powerful now. The relative power between us and them in the 1990s was quite a lot more favorable to us. Hell, China is even trying to match our naval strength in the Pacific now.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Smitty-48 » Sat Sep 02, 2017 11:59 am

StCapps wrote:
Smitty-48 wrote:There is a window of oppotunity, to preempt before the breach, to nip it in the bud, harsh realm for North Korea, but not for America, the Americans are in that window, right now, but it is closing and it is closing fast.
It's not closing fast. Your assessment is faulty.
As CinC, I would not bet the CONUS on your assessment of the threat, "yawn, yawn, yawn" put you on the sidelines, right out of the gate.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by StCapps » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:00 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Don't be silly. NK could level Seoul in minutes. They could drop nuclear warheads across SK now. Also, China is exponentially more powerful now. The relative power between us and them in th e 1990s was quite a lot more favorable to us. He'll, China is even trying to match our naval strength in the Pacific now.
China is more likely to nuke them before you do, before they cross the threshold. NK is a bigger threat to China than the US, they'd be even dumber to sit on their hands and let that happen than you are. Certainly easier to nuke China than the CONUS, you're just being pussy thinking North Korea is some big threat, they ain't shit. It's also easier to nuke Russia than it is to nuke the US, don't expect the Russian would take to kindly to North Korea getting anywhere near the threshold either, maybe that because everyone knows they aren't actually that close to threshold, and you guys are just full of shit fearmongers.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:02 pm

Its karma in a way. We failed to act because of leftist politics, and it's the largest of the three leftist regional strongholds that will get lit up when they launch.

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Post by StCapps » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:04 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:Its karma in a way. We failed to act because of leftist politics, and it's the largest of the three leftist regional strongholds that will get lit up when they launch.
China and Russia don't seem that worried about North Korea, why should the US be more scared than they are? Why wouldn't it behoove them to take out NK before y'all do considering how much easier it is for NK to nuke them instead?
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Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:05 pm

StCapps wrote:
Speaker to Animals wrote:Its karma in a way. We failed to act because of leftist politics, and it's the largest of the three leftist regional strongholds that will get lit up when they launch.
China and Russia don't seem that worried about North Korea, why should the US be more scared than they are?

You resorted to the "phobia" tactic. Looks like you lost the debate.

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Post by StCapps » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:06 pm

Speaker to Animals wrote:You resorted to the "phobia" tactic. Looks like you lost the debate.
You never made a coherent argument, you lost the debate.

North Korea is nowhere near the threshold, Russia knows it, China knows it, America knows it. The only people who don't know it, are you and Smitty.
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Re: North Korea News

Post by Speaker to Animals » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:15 pm

Yeah, I did. So did Smitty. You just didn't have anything with which to respond to it other than "you're afraid!!!". That's an automatic loss, dude.