Why are you conservative, why are you liberal, why are you independent?

[JohnDonne]

That explanation would suggest it is not immoral to have casual sex if you wear condoms, get tested, and later on get married and have normal kids. Great, that’s how most people engage in casual sex, so not really immoral in the majority of cases?

Backpackers though...

[Speaker to Animals]

That explanation would suggest it is not immoral to have casual sex if you wear condoms, get tested, and later on get married and have normal kids. Great, that’s how most people engage in casual sex, so not really immoral in the majority of cases?

Backpackers though...

Negative. You really don't understand morality at all. This is the degeneracy that is destroying our society right now.

[JohnDonne]

I used your reasoning to come to a conclusion and it wound up being wrong? I wouldn't have thought.

[Speaker to Animals]

I used your reasoning to come to a conclusion and it wound up being wrong? I wouldn't have thought.

No, you really didn't. The harm the could potentially inflict is one of the things that makes something immoral. Not the only thing. It's really amazing that you don't understand what makes something immoral.

[JohnDonne]

Nothing about this conversation is amazing.

Obviously I just want to hear your core axiom about immorality, either to deconstruct it or to agree with it.

Just say it already.

[Fife]

Morality is easy.

WTF is a "core axiom?"

[Martin Hash]

"Morals are for churches and ethics are for professional organizations." - me

[JohnDonne]

Morality is easy.

WTF is a "core axiom?"

Whatever assumption is at the bottom of any system of morality or ethics.

I thought you’d know, it’s easy after all

[Speaker to Animals]

Here we see the problem with liberals.

[doc_loliday]

Sex without having kids is immoral because it leads to demographic winter, but not having kids through abstinence is moral even though it too leads to demographic winter.

Having sex for the benefit of "society" is anti-Marxist.

Immoral behavior should be banned on non religious, anti-nannying grounds.