Another School Shooting (Wrong Narrative Though)

[Speaker to Animals]

Negative.

Retirement is the same as everybody else: SS, IRA, 401k.

[Zero]

Negative.

Retirement is the same as everybody else: SS, IRA, 401k.

We don’t get SS, and they’ve been consistently chipping away at TRS in terms of underfunding (though state employees’ ERS pensions are lovely). Also, we qualify for 403b, but barriers are in place set by the legislature that limit what we can invest in. I had to go to Fidelity to have the choices I wanted.

[Speaker to Animals]

Negative.

Retirement is the same as everybody else: SS, IRA, 401k.

We don’t get SS, and they’ve been consistently chipping away at TRS in terms of underfunding (though state employees’ ERS pensions are lovely). Also, we qualify for 403b, but barriers are in place set by the legislature that limit what we can invest in. I had to go to Fidelity to have the choices I wanted.

That's probably because the state is on the hook for those unfunded liabilities in the form of your pensions. Don't act like you are struggling like the rest of the working class here.

[Fife]

We don’t get SS, and they’ve been consistently chipping away at TRS in terms of underfunding (though state employees’ ERS pensions are lovely). Also, we qualify for 403b, but barriers are in place set by the legislature that limit what we can invest in. I had to go to Fidelity to have the choices I wanted.

OMG you are being literally raped.

Literally.

:goteam: :drunk:

[Speaker to Animals]

Well, I mean, if he's going to Fidelity he is getting raped. Do you even Scottrade, bro?

[DBTrek]

damn, that reminds me ... better make sure my 401k doesn’t have any steel or aluminum related investments.

[Fife]

What materials are Whirlpool washers made from?

[Okeefenokee]

Your derision would be more compelling if you followed things like the current teacher strike in W. Va. and looked at how they plan to meet the pay increase demands.

Of course, that would require research and thinking on your part, so I’m not holding my breath.

You mean this?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ed ... 39f9868fa5

The pact announced by Gov. Jim Justice (R) gave teachers a 5 percent raise. The proposed pay increase passed West Virginia’s House of Delegates, Randolph said, but comments from some state lawmakers caused concern.

Not changing anything. Either people have liberty, or they don't. You don't want people to have liberty, and your best argument for why they shouldn't have liberty is that it might cost you a little more in tax dollars. If your Seattle government is forced by law to accept anything the public teachers unions demand, then yeah, sure.... that's bullshit. Your government negotiators obviously should have the ability to decline unfair demands (which I doubt they don't have). The right to strike, to unionize, in itself, though? That's not your problem.

Do soldiers in Denmark have a union?

Can they strike if you don't pay them enough?

[Speaker to Animals]

Your derision would be more compelling if you followed things like the current teacher strike in W. Va. and looked at how they plan to meet the pay increase demands.

Of course, that would require research and thinking on your part, so I’m not holding my breath.

You mean this?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/ed ... 39f9868fa5

The pact announced by Gov. Jim Justice (R) gave teachers a 5 percent raise. The proposed pay increase passed West Virginia’s House of Delegates, Randolph said, but comments from some state lawmakers caused concern.

Not changing anything. Either people have liberty, or they don't. You don't want people to have liberty, and your best argument for why they shouldn't have liberty is that it might cost you a little more in tax dollars. If your Seattle government is forced by law to accept anything the public teachers unions demand, then yeah, sure.... that's bullshit. Your government negotiators obviously should have the ability to decline unfair demands (which I doubt they don't have). The right to strike, to unionize, in itself, though? That's not your problem.

Do soldiers in Denmark have a union?

Can they strike if you don't pay them enough?

I shit you not. At least in the 1990s somebody told me Danish troops have a union. I don't know how true that was, but we all got a good laugh out of the idea.

[Okeefenokee]

Wait. I have an idea. What if we closed down the government schools and just went to all private schools?

Depends on how much of the money you spend (and presumably I would spend, since I imagine they would still be subsidized) on your child's education you want to go to some marketing department instead of a math teacher.

Already covered it.

The nearly uniform finding from this research is that students benefit academically when they attend private school, rather than the public school that they would otherwise have attended. Some disagreement persists about how large the private schools' impact is and about whether it affects all students or only those from particular backgrounds—but not even the harshest critics claim that attending a private school harms students.

Of particular interest to budget-strapped state and local governments is that the cost of the vouchers in these studies—and even the total tuition charged by the private schools, if it's greater than the cost of the voucher—is well below what the public schools would spend to educate the same child. For instance, economist Robert Costrell found that by paying tuition to send 18,500 public school kids to private schools, Milwaukee saved taxpayers $31.9 million in 2008.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424 ... 3242379036